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Learning to Touch Type Again

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Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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Lots of Dvorak users in the comments, but does anyone use colemak or workman? How does it feel? Is it awkward from programming? Also for those using Dvorak, How is programming and gaming?

colemak is fine for both. the odd game or two may have something hard coded, but its usually zxcv.

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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Tangentially related: I began learning the piano last year at 35 and, for obvious reasons I suppose, it feels 100% like I'm learning how to type all over again. But I'm now old enough to really notice and appreciate the progress. Yesterday my left hand was jumping around to different chords without even noticing and I had that moment of, "oh wow it's happening!" I'm entering this phase of what I'll call "general purp…

> Yesterday my left hand was jumping around to different chords without even noticing and I had that moment of, "oh wow it's happening!"

I had this experience when picking up the VR rhythm game Beat Saber. It felt a lot like learning an instrument. If you're not familiar, Beat Saber is a game where you hold two lightsaber-type swords and slice blocks in specific directions as they fly toward you to the rhythm of a song.

At some point my hands just started moving into the right positions without me even consciously registering every block coming toward me. I have a distinct memory of seeing a block right as it was about to pass me by and thinking that I wouldn't have time to cut it before I realized that I was already doing so. Nowadays the limiting factor is overcoming the physical inertia of my arms in order to move them quickly enough.

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I bought a split keyboard but when I realised I had to relearn everything after trying to use it, I abandoned it. I once used DVORAK but I abandoned that too (not overlapping the split key keyboard). I also really liked vimperator, the firefox plugin that let you manipulate firefox and click links through the keyboard and scroll with vim bindings. My tastes have completely changed. I no longer want to optimise how I…

Vimperator lives on as pentadactyl and tridactyl

I believe there was also a vim based chromium fork too, but I never tried it

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As someone who is teaching themself to type properly (home row keys and multiple fingers) but can touch type somewhat fast (130 wpm) this website https://www.keybr.com/ is truly amazing. I struggled teaching myself how to type properly and this website is really good at abosrbing the good patterns. Funny enough practicing correct typing (home rows + all fingers) lets me type faster and more accurately with my own system Ive designed. I practice typing speed tests daily so I can confirm this is true.

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I spent a long time trying to learn touch typing on a regular keyboard but I could never get it to stick, it always felt like the keys were off, due to the stagger, and I would frequently hit two keys at the same time. Getting an ortholinear keyboard (planck) really helped me and finally I can touch type at about 70-90wpm without the awkwardness of staggered keys. It feels like the keys are exactly where they are sup…

I had the same experience, but with a preonic. It's not that hard for me to use a regular keyboard but it definitely feels akward and when I do I type slower and more prone to errors.

Yeah I've been thinking about getting a preonic, or at least something slightly larger than the planck, at times I find it a bit too minimal, also I would like to have two orthos so I don't have to lug one to work every day.

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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As someone who is teaching themself to type properly (home row keys and multiple fingers) but can touch type somewhat fast (130 wpm) this website https://www.keybr.com/ is truly amazing. I struggled teaching myself how to type properly and this website is really good at abosrbing the good patterns. Funny enough practicing correct typing (home rows + all fingers) lets me type faster and more accurately with my own sys…

I started practicing with Keybr few years ago, but switched to superb https://monkeytype.com/ at some point when Keybr capabilities started limiting the progress. Usually using English 10k database.

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Dvorak and Colemak seem better than QWERTY but it’s difficult to choose between those alternatives. I started using Colemak a few days ago because it’s more modern than Dvorak (whatever that means) but I’m still not sure if it’s the best choice. One bonus of Colemak is that it has the same location for the keys XCV used for cut, copy, and paste.

To be fair, I think that DVORAK is overkill. If you want a good compromise between ergonomics and ease of use, definitely go for Colemak. Also a way better choice if you are European, and occasionally need some accents or characters that are not on the Dvorak keyboard. If you are crazy about min-maxing every aspect of your typing, IMO it becomes a rabbit hole: programmer's dvorak, colemak DH and other mods etc. etc.…

Used Dvorak (with some modifications for Estonian language) for few years around 2005. Then switched back to QWERTY as this is available on almost every computer. Was hard to switch back, but got used to it again in a week. Based on this experience I think alternative layouts are a bit overrated.

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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I spent a long time trying to learn touch typing on a regular keyboard but I could never get it to stick, it always felt like the keys were off, due to the stagger, and I would frequently hit two keys at the same time. Getting an ortholinear keyboard (planck) really helped me and finally I can touch type at about 70-90wpm without the awkwardness of staggered keys. It feels like the keys are exactly where they are sup…

> I would frequently hit two keys at the same time

For me, it was as simple as switching out my mechanical keyboard for a mecha-membrane keyboard, thankfully. Although, now I struggle with anything else! :shrug:

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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post #56

As someone who is teaching themself to type properly (home row keys and multiple fingers) but can touch type somewhat fast (130 wpm) this website https://www.keybr.com/ is truly amazing. I struggled teaching myself how to type properly and this website is really good at abosrbing the good patterns. Funny enough practicing correct typing (home rows + all fingers) lets me type faster and more accurately with my own sys…

I started practicing with Keybr few years ago, but switched to superb https://monkeytype.com/ at some point when Keybr capabilities started limiting the progress. Usually using English 10k database.

I use monkey type for sprints, see the max I can output in 15sec, 30sec, 1 minute. I improved my speed from 105 --> 130 primarily using 10fastfingers.com I find typeracer to be the most superb site as it includes punctuation and is actual real life passages. You can also compete with other people which is very useful. I find sites like monkeytype better for benchmarking speed than learning to type.

Re: Learning to Touch Type Again

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I learned Colemak a year ago so I could touch-type properly, because the regular layouts are so sub-optimal that the balance between fingers feel so weird, and being on the home row is actually not optimal. I definitely am happy with the change. I use Colemak mostly for coding, and writing short texts. I would switch to my native layout whenever I need to type fast and long texts (AZERTY, french layout). I definitely…

How does colemak work with the cardinal directions, hjkl?
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