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Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by sdesol »

tylerhannan wrote: post #48
sdesol wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> greatly over-estimating the author's goal here Yeah it is clearly a showcase for ClickHouse which is worth bragging about since it is quite performant. And it has a very strong community as the following shows: https://devboard.gitsense.com/ClickHouse/ClickHouse I am honestly not sure if my solution can handle HackerNews at this point since generating deep insights for ClickHouse (which has a lot of history) is ver…

That would be https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=zX41ZdbW https://github.com/ClickHouse/github-explorer

Thanks. For a CTO, he is extremely active in the community. Only the ClickHouse robot is on par with his engagement. I'll reach out to him to see if ClickHouse is a viable option as my plan is to replace GitHub's insights tab with a useful dashboard (this is why DevBoard has such an minimal look), so I'll need a very performant DB that can work with my queries.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by bawolff »

swozey wrote: post #29
bawolff wrote: post #13

Why does everyone want to turn github in to gamified social media. The resulting software is the achievement not sone bullshit badge.

Why do tens of millions of video gamers work to get to 100% completion and various goofy achievements in their games? Why does Spotify Rewind get posted every year? Some of us find it fun and neat to see certain things/statistics we've achieved/ruined over time.

But life is not a game. You cannot get 100% completion of creating open source software. These statistics (as well as the real githu badges) are bad and not correlated with what the whole point of it all is.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by bawolff »

naikrovek wrote: post #18
treprinum wrote: post #10

Why does every little inconsequential thing have to be gamified to increase engagement? I couldn't care less about how many stars, arctic vault badges etc. do I get in a thing I use to hedge risk of losing my code and collaborate with others.

you're free to not care. most don't care. but achievements are not the goal, achievements are a fraction of a second of amusement or pride about a career of work. it's not for you, fine. why complain about it? let people enjoy something even though you see no point for crying out loud.

I find comments like these a bit hypocritical. Everything you said could be applied to yourself. Like sure, maybe hating on badges is not for you, fine. why complain about it?

It is not a consistent position to complain about people complaining about things on the internet.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by bawolff »

data_block wrote: post #41
that_guy_iain wrote: post #19

Someone makes a joke post with parody github achievements. Someone else then uses a public dataset to see how many people have these parody achievement. Hacker News: "Gamifying everything is terrible" I think getting angry about everything including parody github achievements is terrible.

I think it shows how little the average HN user actually looks at the content that gets posted.

I think it just shows that people will talk about the interesting issue related to the topic even if its not the direct topic.

People are not going to discuss a joke that's not particularly funny. It just isn't very interesting fruit for discussion.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by bawolff »

lucumo wrote: post #44
reaperducer wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no one writes software for metadata They didn't used to because there was no incentive to do anything but a good job. Now there is an incentive to accumulate metadata. And just like thumbs on Facebook or points on StackOverflow, it will be gamed. It will be trolled. All you've done is take the incentive of "earn a good reputation by publishing quality work" and open the platform to people who only care about "Ooh, sh…

> > no one writes software for metadata > They didn't used to because there was no incentive to do anything but a good job. Whenever I'm leaving a job, I keep a look-out for opportunities to change lines that rarely change. Things like doctype declarations, blank lines, closing braces, stuff like that. If I can change them, my name is memorialized longer in the `git blame` of projects. People will find ways to gamify…

I mean, no offense but that's the perfect example of why this sort of thing is annoying.

It encourages people to do things that they wouldn't normally do that has negative (albeit minor). Extra unnessary commits complicate the git log. Intentionally getting your name on git blame makes finding the true commit slightly more annoying.

Sure these are incredibly minor things, but its still encouraging behaviour that is not positive.

Metric chasing is destructive.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by lagniappe »

bawolff wrote: post #52
swozey wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do tens of millions of video gamers work to get to 100% completion and various goofy achievements in their games? Why does Spotify Rewind get posted every year? Some of us find it fun and neat to see certain things/statistics we've achieved/ruined over time.

But life is not a game. You cannot get 100% completion of creating open source software. These statistics (as well as the real githu badges) are bad and not correlated with what the whole point of it all is.

I find myself wondering what the point of it all is. If anybody knows, holler.

Re: GitHub profile achievements

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Post by slily »

swozey wrote: post #29
bawolff wrote: post #13

Why does everyone want to turn github in to gamified social media. The resulting software is the achievement not sone bullshit badge.

Why do tens of millions of video gamers work to get to 100% completion and various goofy achievements in their games? Why does Spotify Rewind get posted every year? Some of us find it fun and neat to see certain things/statistics we've achieved/ruined over time.

It's easy for it to devolve into an unhealthy distraction from real life. I know a few people who are out of school and unemployed and spend their days grinding in MMOs or collecting achievements. At least with GitHub you're presumably doing something productive to earn them.
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