Escaping High School

Post by bell-cot » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 1:32 PM UTC

light_hue_1 wrote: post #24

bell-cot wrote: post #2

Decades ago, an old friend of mine had a go-getter son, who started a lawn care business when he was ~15. Son was talented, and his business grew very fast. (This was in a well-to-do suburb, before there were so many lawn care businesses. Plenty of good HS students available to hire, and the trucks were leased.) For getting into top-ranked colleges, "the summer business I started in HS is already paying me more than…

> For getting into top-ranked colleges, "the summer business I started in HS is already paying me more than your median graduate's full-time job" is a slam-dunk argument. No. It's really not. As someone who has been involved in the system that admits you to top ranked universities and whose summer hustle also paid well in highschool. This is not a slam dunk. It's one small piece. And it could easily backfire and be a…

Post by Tade0 » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 1:34 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #13

Tade0 wrote: post #7

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Right after getting his master's degree my friend's father stood before a choice: accept a desk job paying X a month, or make X per job installing and repairing A/C units. That MSc at least helped tremendously with branding - people could lay their trust in that when he was still starting out.

A family member just paid $500 for someone to come replace a $35 capacitor on their central AC compressor, after I explained how they could do it themselves in 5 minutes.

Post by treis » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 1:39 PM UTC

ameister14 wrote: post #33

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #29

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It is almost certainly not worth your time to try to be in the top 10 in your class. Nearly everyone is much better off doing other things with their time than studying to try to get an elite college for a good deal. There's little evidence that where you go to school matters. If you take Albert Einstein and you put him in a community college, he's still going to be Albert Einstein, and you're still going to just be…

>There's little evidence that where you go to school matters. That's not quite true. There is little evidence that if you go to Penn instead of Penn State you have different results, but there are caveats. First, you have to be able to get into both. [edit]The studies control for selection, so the ones showing no increase in wages are studying the same cohort at Penn and Penn State, but there are more students at Pen…

Post by willcipriano » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 1:52 PM UTC

tallanvor wrote: post #57

willcipriano wrote: post #50

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If the "people who have spent their lives studying education" are using learning styles it isn't hard to be smarter than them, it has been roundly debunked. https://www.educationnext.org/stubborn-myth-learning-styles-...

The article you cite doesn't actually provide any data for their claims, and only links to another article on the same site which, again, doesn't actually provide any data. In fact, even checking the articles in their "Research" section, there is no information about the actual data provided, and all links I've seen were only to other articles on the same site. It leads me to believe that the people behind the site h…

Post by csa » Fri, Jul 07, 2023, 2:05 PM UTC

treis wrote: post #56

ameister14 wrote: post #33

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>There's little evidence that where you go to school matters. That's not quite true. There is little evidence that if you go to Penn instead of Penn State you have different results, but there are caveats. First, you have to be able to get into both. [edit]The studies control for selection, so the ones showing no increase in wages are studying the same cohort at Penn and Penn State, but there are more students at Pen…

Penn's not really the level of school that will be that much better over a flagship state school. Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, and maybe a few more are that level.