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France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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That sounds very reasonable, similar to installing a bugging device in the house of a suspect, to gather more evidence.

The neat thing about mobile phones is that such a bugging capability comes built-in. The police should certainly be allowed to use this in the course of investigative duties.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

No it’s not the same. One of them is an institution conceived through organisation of people, laws, traditions and customs, the existence and membership of which is a choice. The other categories are associations made by accident of birth. I don’t have a horse in the race but it is important to understand that those situations are not the same. When people say stuff like ACAB they are free to criticise the existence…

> The other categories are associations made by accident of birth.

Just because someone says you are a Christian because you were baptized or whatever doesn't make it so. Religion is just as much a choice as an occupation.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

Absolutely not. It's a profession, every cop out there can just... not be a cop. Comparing that to skin color or someone's ethnicity is absolutely ridiculous.

> It's a profession, every cop out there can just... not be a cop.

Yeah, and every coal miner can just stop complaining about tough working conditions and decreasing number of jobs in their field, and instead learn how to code. It is that simple[0].

0. https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/47...

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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> #ACAB At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

If you have been around a while, you will recognize ACAB from the tattoos of nazi skinheads or hells angels. I guess the enemy of your enemy is your friend even when they are fascist dickheads. Can we pick a new slogan or is there a reason we are attached to this one?

There is a reason racist extremists don’t like the cops. They want to carry out their agenda with impunity, and people use the power of the police to manage their presence in public spaces.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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I think it's unpracticable unless they install a backdoor on each phone.

They don't have to install the backdoor themselves since that is clearly beyond the French police's reach. But if backdoors are already there they (France) only have to get access.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

It's okay to dislike people for the bad things that they do. It's not okay to dislike people for the circumstances they were born into.

Every cop, at least in the US, made the conscious decision to join a broken system where they would be rewarded for greed and corruption, and be allowed to dehumanize any group they decide they don't like. People who sign up to be cops who try to change any of this end up not being cops anymore, so the tautology holds true.

Bring up the FOP under RICO charges and prevent people with a history of violence and drug abuse from being put into positions of authority, and then we can re-evaluate the situation, but until then, police can not and should not be trusted.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#59
From an opsec standpoint, would leaving the phone in airplane mode and turning off location services effectively block access to the phone?

From my understanding airplane mode disables the sim, wifi, gps, and bluetooth entirely, but it's possible to re-enable wifi, gps, and bluetooth. It's something I got into the habit of doing because my phone searching for 4g cellular data ate into my battery.

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