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All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#52

Browsers shouldn't have accounts to begin with.

Where does one store favorite links so I can handle them on phone and two separate machines?

> Where does one store favorite links so I can handle them on phone and two separate machines?

Linkding: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#53

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Pocket has been owned by Mozilla since 2017; why didn’t you end your subscription then?

Because it was just owned then, I disagree with further integration.

But if you don't trust Mozilla, what made you think that further integration wasn't already going on without you knowing?

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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pocket is a... well, it's a tool anyway, that never should have been anything but an add-on. Including it in the browser was one of the biggest signs that firefox was willing to sacrifice their user's privacy and security for revenue. If people are fine with telling Pocket what they read and letting them push related ads at them all day they should absolutely have that choice, but it should never have been shoved on…

> If people are fine with telling Pocket what they read I don't believe the ads shown in Firefox require sending any browsing history to the web (whether to Firefox or anyone else). The mechanism used here is different. I do agree with you that pushing ads into the browser chrome by default is abhorrent (a judgment compounded with the fact that they initially pretended that these weren't ads).

Saving pages to Pocket tells Mozilla what you read though. Reading List did not.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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They had an implementation that did not require any accounts. They deemed that it's too confusing for users* to scan some QR codes (or type a bunch of characters), so they went with an account-based system. *) Or whatever the real reason was. It was about time Mozilla started to have management issues so I absolutely won't be surprised if the goal was to "become an ecosystem" or "gather a userbase" (or whatever is ma…

> scan some QR codes How is that not still an account? What definition of account are we working with here?

It depends how you define an account. Is an account an email? Is an account an id in a database? An IP? You can't sync anything without an "account"

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#56
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I don't see it either for 108 USD/year. I get that they need to pay for servers, for developers and etc, but I pay less for Spotify and somehow they manage to license vast amount of content.

Well, Spotify does it by underpaying artists.

Do Pocket/Mozilla have artists to pay?

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#57
post #45

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They had an implementation that did not require any accounts. They deemed that it's too confusing for users* to scan some QR codes (or type a bunch of characters), so they went with an account-based system. *) Or whatever the real reason was. It was about time Mozilla started to have management issues so I absolutely won't be surprised if the goal was to "become an ecosystem" or "gather a userbase" (or whatever is ma…

> scan some QR codes How is that not still an account? What definition of account are we working with here?

Maybe it was using technology similar to magic wormhole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G3_Xa1GBTs

https://github.com/magic-wormhole/magic-wormhole

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#58

I love Pocket. It's the only bookmarking tool I ever stuck with. I also use Firefox as my main browser.

I want to love Pocket, but I just can’t. Every time I open it, all I see is a lot of work that past me wanted future me to do. I’ve stopped using it because I’m trying to be kinder to future me.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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I hate the way pocket was just plonked in as a feature i never wanted along side a bunch of splash screens. Gits

I was also upset at that, but I decided to give Pocket a go. it wasn't bad. and then they changed it so that the Pocket section of the home screen couldn't be collapsed, and it became a problem. see I want it to be there as an option, but I wanted it collapsed by default - otherwise, it's too distracting when I'm just opening a new tab to search for something. so I disabled Pocket and don't use it anymore. Gits

When reading your replies I choose to think that “gits” is hacker news slang for using git to check out the source code, patch the offending behaviour, and compile it yourself.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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post #45

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They had an implementation that did not require any accounts. They deemed that it's too confusing for users* to scan some QR codes (or type a bunch of characters), so they went with an account-based system. *) Or whatever the real reason was. It was about time Mozilla started to have management issues so I absolutely won't be surprised if the goal was to "become an ecosystem" or "gather a userbase" (or whatever is ma…

> scan some QR codes How is that not still an account? What definition of account are we working with here?

Sure, strictly speaking, of course there were accounts as in "database records". However, users gave no details about themselves, and haven't signed up for anything. No long-term credentials, just a rendezvous point.

You used to just open two Firefoxes, start sync setup on the one, copy (or scan) a code to another - boom, done, they're talking to each other.

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