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A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by autoexec »

WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #25
PretzelPirate wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want controllers to keep changing. I love the Xbox controller. I also have a PS5 and a switch, but those controllers don't feel good in my hand. The PS5 haptics don't add much IMO, but hurt battery life enough that I'd rather just turn them off.

Well, I use a controller to game and interact with the game, the most ways to game, the more fun I have Hence why I bought a Nintendo Switch, the premise is: to have fun

The only reason I've put off buying a switch is because the controllers are so bad. Even assuming they've finally fixed all the issues with drift and wireless, the controls are cramped and the buttons so so tiny!

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by autoexec »

FloatArtifact wrote: post #2

It's a shame everything used to come with a diagram. Now we resort to CT and x-rays.

At least controllers usually are pretty easy to open up and teardown. When I read the title my first thought was "why not just use a screw driver to see inside?"

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by darknavi »

cubefox wrote: post #39

One thing they didn't make quite clear here is that the Xbox controller is considerably less advanced than the PS5 controller. The PS5 controller has "linear resonant actuators" (previously introduced in the Switch, and in the iPhone before that) which provide a much more fine-grained rumble feature than the older method which is still used in the XBox. The newer feature lets you feel e.g. that the character walks ov…

I haven't picked up a Dual Shock controller in probably 5 years. How does the "heft" feel these days? I was really put off by the PS4 controller (DS4?) because of the super light, plastic-y feel.

Compare that to a Xbox Elite controller (different price tier, I know) and it feels like a cheap piece of junk.

I assume with all of this new tech the PS5 controller is a bit heftier but I was surprised how much just the weight made a different for me.

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by GranPC »

guhidalg wrote: post #10
MichaelEstes wrote: post #7

Does anyone know how accurate these are to the raw data a CT scan produces, it looks really clean, has it been touched up any significant amount or is this actually the quality of the machines?

I've seen slightly better scans from the Lumafield machine I have access to at $DAYJOB, but only slightly better. The scans shown here are very high quality. You don't get access to raw data, assuming you mean something like individual X-ray images. The service runs the tomography on some cluster in the cloud and you get access to the reconstruction through a web app.

The scans you see on this website are from Lumafield machines, so that does check out.

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by mrbonner »

cubefox wrote: post #39

One thing they didn't make quite clear here is that the Xbox controller is considerably less advanced than the PS5 controller. The PS5 controller has "linear resonant actuators" (previously introduced in the Switch, and in the iPhone before that) which provide a much more fine-grained rumble feature than the older method which is still used in the XBox. The newer feature lets you feel e.g. that the character walks ov…

The ps5 controller, just like the PS4 controller, are succumbed to the dreaded stick drifting issue. I play Call of Duty and this stick drifting issue has made me own more than 4-5 controllers for each generation. At this point I have a conspiracy theory that Sony intentionally not fixing this. My friends in the Xbox camp say they never experienced this issue.

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by autoexec »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #37
amelius wrote: post #8

You can do this yourself. Just bring a USB drive to the airport and ask the TSA officer for a copy of the images.

I would hope that data can’t be just copied to a USB. I would like to believe it is destroyed automatically except with an override authorization code from a couple of managers but I know better.

When TSA employees were busted for saving pics of women going through their nudie scanners they were saving the images on their cell phones if that makes you feel better.

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by darknavi »

katbyte wrote: post #49
dmbche wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not certain how outdated it is. I'm certainly happy with it, and I imagine it adds workload to the console.

well it is objectively outdated based on the different tech and capabilities. now as to if these are something you want or need is another question.

Not to be stuck on my old ways too hard but didn't Sony make it so you can't play PS4 games on your PS5 without an actual PS4 controller?

That sort of thing really puts me off the changes, although I accept that it pushes innovation forward.

I enjoy being able to play OG Xbox, 360, and current-gen titles with the same controller.

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by yokoprime »

darknavi wrote: post #53
cubefox wrote: post #39

One thing they didn't make quite clear here is that the Xbox controller is considerably less advanced than the PS5 controller. The PS5 controller has "linear resonant actuators" (previously introduced in the Switch, and in the iPhone before that) which provide a much more fine-grained rumble feature than the older method which is still used in the XBox. The newer feature lets you feel e.g. that the character walks ov…

I haven't picked up a Dual Shock controller in probably 5 years. How does the "heft" feel these days? I was really put off by the PS4 controller (DS4?) because of the super light, plastic-y feel. Compare that to a Xbox Elite controller (different price tier, I know) and it feels like a cheap piece of junk. I assume with all of this new tech the PS5 controller is a bit heftier but I was surprised how much just the wei…

I love the elite controller, best gaming peripheral I’ve owned. Melts into the hand and has back paddles

Re: A look inside the SNES, PS5, and Xbox controllers with CT scans

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Post by ProfessorLayton »

mrbonner wrote: post #56
cubefox wrote: post #39

One thing they didn't make quite clear here is that the Xbox controller is considerably less advanced than the PS5 controller. The PS5 controller has "linear resonant actuators" (previously introduced in the Switch, and in the iPhone before that) which provide a much more fine-grained rumble feature than the older method which is still used in the XBox. The newer feature lets you feel e.g. that the character walks ov…

The ps5 controller, just like the PS4 controller, are succumbed to the dreaded stick drifting issue. I play Call of Duty and this stick drifting issue has made me own more than 4-5 controllers for each generation. At this point I have a conspiracy theory that Sony intentionally not fixing this. My friends in the Xbox camp say they never experienced this issue.

What makes this situation even more frustrating is that analog sticks have been around for a long time now. I still have controllers from the PS2/GC/Xbox era that work just fine after all these years and countless hours of play, and have no drift whatsoever.

Even the earliest analog sticks like the N64 (Which used LEDs for tracking) didn't suffer from drift — although it did wear out considerably mechanically!

I just bit the bullet and replaced my Joycon's sticks with 3rd party hall-sensing ones, which have worked great so far.

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