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The downfall of National Geographic

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Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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Nintendo was also already a corporate behemoth by the time OoT came out.

That is the larger organization, there are microcosms inside each company.

But OOT was a AAA title already, and there were already several wildly successful Zelda games before OOT too. There's so many reasons why Zelda is, if anything, a counterexample to this phenomenon.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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Do you have specific examples of what you mean by “concentrated on political correctness”? I absolutely agree that they dumbed down their content, but I think that’s more of a misguided push to appeal to a more general audience which just alienates their original core base. I remember seeing stuff like Doomsday Preppers being advertised several years ago which seemed antithetical to the magazines I remember my dad ge…

Same here. I'm especially confused given how Fox - not particularly known for its (left-leaning) political correctness - bought National Geographic in 2015, and partnered with Nat Geo back in 1997 to start the National Geographic Channel.

I think it was more about generating headlines and causing a stir so they could stay relevant. The politics part was just a tool.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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I found a heap of their magazines from the 60’s and 70’s in the recycling at my university, and boy are they a good read. I think one reason they used to be so good (speculating) was that the internet didn’t exist. It was a medium where you could regularly learn out about distant things like peculiar mountain goats or an arctic tribe and get a firsthand report of it. Now there’s no shortage of interesting things like that to read, so maybe it’s not a viable strategy for a print magazine.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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They dumbed down long before that, that was just when you noticed. It was that success in the 80s that largely killed them, because they realized that their brand pushed product. The business turned to commercial branding or retail stores and selling random stuff, culminating in becoming one of the random logos on a bland Korean fashion brand. My guess is that many who were turned off because they "went woke" loved i…

> There's still plenty of room for high-quality writing about the world and its inhabitants; Where can this be found?

All over. the hard part is finding it. Some of it gets linked here. A lot of blogs are in depth writing about some niche in the world. (the vast majority are of course low effort drivel, but there is still more high quality content out there than you have time to read)

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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For National Geographic, I wonder if there is another dimension that isn’t talked about: Nudity For a significant portion of time, National Geographic was the only culturally acceptable and accessible place in the United States one could see photographs of nude women (and men). I would guess there were millions of boys across multiple generations in the United States who saw their fist photo of a nude woman in Nation…

The nudity was tolerated as long as the subjects were natives. No naked "regular people" appeared in the pages of National Geographic. Which does point to one of the causes for people complaining that it's gone down hill and isn't what it used to be, and other code language.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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I remember getting a subscription and canceling it immediately after getting my first issue, somewhere around 2015. It was about how Detroit is actually a very cool city and had photos and interviews of cool young people with tattoos. Simply not what I remembered of the magazine as a child. And I have no problem with tattoos, just the strange political agenda that had nothing to do with the environment or animals. I…

How is "Detroit is actually cool" and "cool young people with tattoos" a political agenda?

The idea presented in the article conveys to people that being cool is important and good. Cool is also code for Democrat or, at least, absolutely not Republican.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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Do you see more of this collapse of written media houses? With willingness to pay for media at an all time low + cost of production of writing going to near zero, the demise of online media publications is near inevitable. Will we see a resurgence of a new form of personalized research replacing this void for which folks will be willing to pay for? Is there a need for intermediaries in the space? Does direct publishi…

Maybe high-quality physical print that looks good on a bookshelf. Similar to how vinyl records are thriving in the streaming music era

Print is needed, more than ever. Anything that's online can vanish in a heartbeat.

Re: The downfall of National Geographic

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Nearly every single newspaper and magazine company has the exact same revenue and subscriber growth chart over the last 20 years. Its a roughly 30-degree angle down and to the right, from a high around 2000 to todays near bankrupcy across the board. Everybody got laid off, everything is produced by freelancers hitting wordcount and postcount metrics by the hour. There's nothing special about NatGeo here, Time, Newswe…

Not exactly, no. Most newspapers are profitable. The mostly non-newspaper titles you list were all chasing the over-saturated market for liberal commentary and opinion.

http://marcedge.com/jombs.pdf

"This research follows on a 2014 study of North American newspapers which examined annual financial reports for publicly traded chains and found that none posted an annual loss on an operating basis between 2006 and 2013. An analysis of UK newspaper company financial reports was thus performed to determine whether predictions of extinction similar to those made in North America are likewise unfounded and to compare their performance. Results showed more variation than in the U.S. and Canada. Most UK newspapers are still profitable, but not as profitable as before. The Times, historically a loss maker, has moved to profitability in recent years with the introduction of a paywall for its online content. The same paywall reduced the advertising revenues of News Corp’s Sun and was thus dropped."

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