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Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#51

Post by justinclift »

asah wrote: post #49
justinclift wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, the other commenters descriptions of it make it sound super shady. Perhaps you made a bad call with this one?

No seriously, I know the team, work with them every day, read the code and have repo access, etc etc etc. The other commenters are social media randos, who actually don't know WTF they're talking about. Lookup my profile and you can decide if I do. Sometimes HN are just a herd of lazy jerks.

k, well using Tor I just loaded the website.

"The power of 100,000 computers in a few clicks"

No strong impression either way from that. So, lets look a bit more...

k, there's an "About" button up the top. Clicked that.

Nothing. It just drops down a list of "Blog", "Team", or "Contact".

I don't give a shit about any of those, nor have any interest in them.

Why isn't "About" actually taking me to a page with info telling me WTF it's About?

That's not super shady anyway, just really dumb design.

Moving on, Lets look at the "Developers" options. So I click "Developers" then pick the 1st option "Desktop apps". That open's a new submenu, so I pick the first page there... "Dashboard".

Instead of anything useful, that takes me to a website where I need to login.

Well. That's the end of my interest. Closed website, never to return.

At least it doesn't seem shady, as it never took me to anything other than the front page even though I tried (briefly).

You might want to advise them a bit harder or differently or something, as it's clearly not great currently. :/

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#52

Post by asah »

justinclift wrote: post #51
asah wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No seriously, I know the team, work with them every day, read the code and have repo access, etc etc etc. The other commenters are social media randos, who actually don't know WTF they're talking about. Lookup my profile and you can decide if I do. Sometimes HN are just a herd of lazy jerks.

k, well using Tor I just loaded the website. "The power of 100,000 computers in a few clicks" No strong impression either way from that. So, lets look a bit more... k, there's an "About" button up the top. Clicked that. Nothing. It just drops down a list of "Blog", "Team", or "Contact". I don't give a shit about any of those, nor have any interest in them. Why isn't "About" actually taking me to a page with info tell…

Thanks for the feedback, but haha it sounds like it worked actually: you're not the target customer and avoided wasting yours or the company's time :-)

At this stage of the company, the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners.

The typical flow is (strong reason to engage) => homepage => "deploy on Massive" => book a time to talk.

Massive never seems short of customer interest, and the challenge is more on engineering to safely and efficiency grow.

I guess now is the time to plug the jobs page: https://www.joinmassive.com/jobs (I'm personally leading the key searches and feedback very welcome on those listings)

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#53

Post by justinclift »

asah wrote: post #52
justinclift wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

k, well using Tor I just loaded the website. "The power of 100,000 computers in a few clicks" No strong impression either way from that. So, lets look a bit more... k, there's an "About" button up the top. Clicked that. Nothing. It just drops down a list of "Blog", "Team", or "Contact". I don't give a shit about any of those, nor have any interest in them. Why isn't "About" actually taking me to a page with info tell…

Thanks for the feedback, but haha it sounds like it worked actually: you're not the target customer and avoided wasting yours or the company's time :-) At this stage of the company, the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners. The typical flow is (strong reason to engage) => homepage => "deploy on Massive" =>…

> the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners.

You've just wasted my time, and other people people's time on this crap.

Trying to claim that, after quite literally coming here on HN and trying to spruik that crowd to everyone, just makes the case for the earlier critical commenters.

That's the behaviour of someone clearly full of shit.

Thanks for confirming joinmassive is actually a shady operation.

Hopefully this gets into search engine results, so less people waste time on this bullshit.

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#55

Post by toast0 »

kjs3 wrote: post #48
kobalsky wrote: post #39

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my experience with hetzner's support is excellent since I've never spoken to them 8 dedicated 64t/128gb servers for 2 years, 0 cumulative seconds of downtime, perfect record.

You aren't experiencing support (you're talking about ops if anything) and you don't rate support based on when you don't need them.

> you don't rate support based on when you don't need them.

There's something to be said about companies where things work so you don't need support. Some companies make you go through support for IPMI, and sometimes it's self-service and you only need to go through self-service if it breaks.

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#56

Post by asah »

justinclift wrote: post #53
asah wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback, but haha it sounds like it worked actually: you're not the target customer and avoided wasting yours or the company's time :-) At this stage of the company, the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners. The typical flow is (strong reason to engage) => homepage => "deploy on Massive" =>…

> the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners. You've just wasted my time, and other people people's time on this crap. Trying to claim that, after quite literally coming here on HN and trying to spruik that crowd to everyone, just makes the case for the earlier critical commenters. That's the behaviour of so…

(HNers are welcome to visit my profile and decide if I'm legit after 30 years, google, inktomi and numerous startups)

Many startups sell and work closely with partners earlier in their lifecycle before their platforms are ready for the mainstream. OP was asking about access to lots of low cost CPUs for an application that could be a good fit, so I posted a casual one-liner. Massive is akin to SETI@Home but with a slightly more general SDK, and which complies with privacy, security and opt-in requirements from the major AV companies.

I personally think it's awesome to have another way to monetize that isn't ads or subscriptions, both of which have downsides to users and don't fit every type of application.

You don't have to agree, but I'd *kindly* ask to be afforded the same respect I'd give you, and which frankly I personally deserve.

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#57

Post by justinclift »

asah wrote: post #56
justinclift wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the goal of the website is to provide a validating presence for people who already heard about them, because they're selling to carefully vetted partners. You've just wasted my time, and other people people's time on this crap. Trying to claim that, after quite literally coming here on HN and trying to spruik that crowd to everyone, just makes the case for the earlier critical commenters. That's the behaviour of so…

(HNers are welcome to visit my profile and decide if I'm legit after 30 years, google, inktomi and numerous startups) Many startups sell and work closely with partners earlier in their lifecycle before their platforms are ready for the mainstream. OP was asking about access to lots of low cost CPUs for an application that could be a good fit, so I posted a casual one-liner. Massive is akin to SETI@Home but with a sli…

After repeatedly wasting people's time, on purpose, you deserve as much respect as you're getting.

None at all.

Re: Cheapest Source of x86 Cores?

#58

Post by kjs3 »

toast0 wrote: post #55
kjs3 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't experiencing support (you're talking about ops if anything) and you don't rate support based on when you don't need them.

> you don't rate support based on when you don't need them. There's something to be said about companies where things work so you don't need support. Some companies make you go through support for IPMI, and sometimes it's self-service and you only need to go through self-service if it breaks.

That's irrelevant. At some point (other than trivial use cases), things will break in a way you will need someone other than yourself or your team to get involved. It doesn't matter how great they were at staying out of your way when simple things go wrong that you got if there's noone competent to help you when SHTF.
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