Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

Post by DetroitThrow » Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 2:30 PM UTC

KingOfCoders wrote: post #45

ryanackley wrote: post #37

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[edit] This is a response to the original unedited comment that claimed he wrote the first version of Confluence I'm a former Confluence developer (2008-2013). I don't know anything about you or the detailed history of Confluence. - When I started there were 12 people on the team including me. I wasn't there at the very beginning but some people on that team were and they would discuss design decisions from the start…

[Edit] To make it clearer I annotated my initial comment because I don't want to mislead people. [Deleted b/c it was inappropriate] The wiki engine was called Radeox and rendered wiki markup into HTML. It was written in Java and open sourced from an existing Wiki application called SnipSnap [0]. If you have worked at Atlassian as a developer, you should have seen that name. It was also used as an example by Grails de…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

KingOfCoders wrote: post #45

ryanackley wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[edit] This is a response to the original unedited comment that claimed he wrote the first version of Confluence I'm a former Confluence developer (2008-2013). I don't know anything about you or the detailed history of Confluence. - When I started there were 12 people on the team including me. I wasn't there at the very beginning but some people on that team were and they would discuss design decisions from the start…

[Edit] To make it clearer I annotated my initial comment because I don't want to mislead people. [Deleted b/c it was inappropriate] The wiki engine was called Radeox and rendered wiki markup into HTML. It was written in Java and open sourced from an existing Wiki application called SnipSnap [0]. If you have worked at Atlassian as a developer, you should have seen that name. It was also used as an example by Grails de…

Post by KingOfCoders » Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 3:10 PM UTC

DetroitThrow wrote: post #51

KingOfCoders wrote: post #45

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[Edit] To make it clearer I annotated my initial comment because I don't want to mislead people. [Deleted b/c it was inappropriate] The wiki engine was called Radeox and rendered wiki markup into HTML. It was written in Java and open sourced from an existing Wiki application called SnipSnap [0]. If you have worked at Atlassian as a developer, you should have seen that name. It was also used as an example by Grails de…

In fairness, "Wiki engine" to me made me think Confluence was based off of XWiki or something similar and that you contributed that, rather than a Wiki macro renderer. Additionally, Confluence being born from it seems like something someone should have the receipts to as well. Maybe someone can reach out to Mike about it.

Post by KingOfCoders » Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 3:12 PM UTC

beernet wrote: post #56

KingOfCoders wrote: post #3

Atlassian, before Atlassian, asked me to open source my wiki engine, because they wanted to create a wiki. Did that, LGPLed it, and Confluence was born ;-) [Edit] "Engine" is ambigous, wiki render engine would be more precise [0]. To be transparent and because it is not and was not my intention to mislead people: the code was a library that rendered Wiki markup into HTML and had a plugin/extension system to e.G. rend…

It's always telling when the top comment is about who gets to take the credit for whatever. I never understood that - you either sell your stuff or be fine with it being used by others for free

Post by solarkraft » Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 3:27 PM UTC

KingOfCoders wrote: post #57

beernet wrote: post #56

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It's always telling when the top comment is about who gets to take the credit for whatever. I never understood that - you either sell your stuff or be fine with it being used by others for free

Yes, as I've said, I'm mostly fine and today would choose MIT over LGPL.