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Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by Pulcinella »

josephcsible wrote: post #50
Pulcinella wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m happy with the one that doesn’t allow crypto crap. Also free speech is a practical impossibility. Standard email is a free as it gets and it turns out nobody wants that because if you have completely free speech your inbox gets spammed into oblivion. Everyone draws the line somewhere.

First they came for the crypto crap, and I did not speak out ... Then they came for me. And with email, the recipient can choose to override the spam filter. That's key, and is the reason that spam filters aren't censorship.

First they came for the spam emails, and I did not speak out because I was not a spammer.

Then they came for the crypto crap, and I did not speak out because I didn’t want that crap.

Then they came for the NFTs, and I did not speak out because I was not an NFT bro.

Then they came for the weekly trash pickup, and I said thank you.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by evandale »

mchannon wrote: post #27
geodel wrote: post #23

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US companies are not allowed to buy EU.

Hilarious. Countries aren’t allowed to invade each other. Also, crime is not allowed.

I don't know why this is flagged.

Saying "US companies are not allowed to buy EU" is lower quality IMO. Not being allowed to do things has never stopped people from doing things and it isn't adding to the discussion.

At least this comment is pointing out how ridiculous it is to say something isn't allowed as a justification for why it will never happen.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by yieldcrv »

siwatanejo wrote: post #22
DennisP wrote: post #18

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Technically ENS names are NFTs, I'd say that's a non-scam use case equivalent to domain names.

Nail on the head, I think ENS/BNS entries are the only NFTs that are not scams, because they have utility.

Insurance coverage are NFTs, and liquidity pool records are NFTs

there are other financials using that technology

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by reaperman »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #38
waihtis wrote: post #20

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A bunch of bureaucrats somehow outsmarting one of the most well resourced and talented machineries out there is the thing I am skeptical about. The two systems are not equal by a long shot.

I don't think calling the EU "a bunch of bureaucrats" is accurate. I also love how "bureaucrat" ended up meaning "any government body which does stuff I don't like"

While I personally agree with your latter sentiment, the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines bureaucrat to be simply, “a member of a bureaucracy”. Where the top definition of bureaucracy is:

a) : a body of nonelected government officials

or

b) : an administrative policymaking group

So really, any government is a bureaucracy.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by api »

photonerd wrote: post #31
RATML wrote: post #26

Imagine doing all that work to just hinge your fate on the least open, least aligned platform to your app's and app protocol's declared raison d'être. Do these people really believe that the cypherpunk ethos involves being an Apple bootlicker? I don't get it.

I mean anyone who would work on or with a google platform certainly isn’t. They’re the least cypherpunk, most bland and corporate, evil tech corp I can think of that makes consumer hardware outside of MAYBE Meta.

It'd be nice if there were a Linux laptop option that didn't sound like a jet engine taking off every time you do anything serious with it.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by derefr »

this_user wrote: post #45
colesantiago wrote: post #33

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> I’ve seen them used sensibly for shipment tracking. Why do this when the current system already handles this? This is no unique usecase.

It really isn't, because if you either don't trust the sender or the shipping company, then your real issue is that the shipment or its contents get stolen, not that the shipping information is wrong. Once again, crypto is trying to solve problems that don't actually exist while completely failing to address the ones that do.

> then your real issue is that the shipment or its contents get stolen

No, the chain-of-provenance use-case is to prevent people from being able to sell grey-market products while claiming that they're official products. E.g. selling iPhones built out of reconstituted parts from iPhones that were pickpocketed from their owners and then scrapped for parts. (Yes, this is a big issue — Google "my stolen phone ended up in shenzhen" and you'll get a ton of news stories.)

If you (or a retailer) forces the retailer (wholesaler) to provide a chain of digital signatures demonstrating each hand-off of the parts all the way back to the factory that produced them, then you implicitly reject any assemblage of parts where some of the parts were black-market-sourced. Which allows for legitimate refurbishing using legitimately acquired parts (i.e. it doesn't put the Shenzhen phone-repair stores themselves out of business); but destroys the demand for the electronics "chop shops" these stores currently sometimes order parts from.

In this case, a "blockchain" here is an open-public-participation multiparty ledger that tracks ownership of physical goods; with a digital signature inherent to each transfer of the digital asset representing the physical good, which should be done at time of transfer of physical goods. Unlike other use-cases, you really can't simplify the solution — to enable this use-case, you need a system with pretty much all the properties of a blockchain.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by Gareth321 »

delfinom wrote: post #11
lapcat wrote: post #5

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> I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. They aren't ok with it. The EU recently passed the Digital Markets Act. But some of the provisions don't take effect until 2024.

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The EU isn't like the US. This law will stay in effect during any court proceedings.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by Gareth321 »

photonerd wrote: post #30
Varloom wrote: post #15

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By May 2024 every iPhone in EU will be allowed to install alternative app stores legally. It's only a problem for the rest of the world.

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The horror! How could the EU... allow me to install software on my little pocket computer. Those monsters!
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