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Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by tambourine_man »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #46
tambourine_man wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tiring to read almost everyday on HN: “the amount of work required to make this circle into a square is ridiculous”. Some of us enjoy circles. Use whatever you like, but complaining A is not B is annoying.

No one is complaining A is not B. Everyone is complaining that macOS lacks some fairly basic UX options and is being neglected by Apple which corrects these flaws at a glacial pace.

Oh, but they are. I'm extremely productive on stock macOS, way more than on Windows. I just don't keep complaining that Windows is broken. Some people obviously love it.

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by [deleted] »

tambourine_man wrote: post #51
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is complaining A is not B. Everyone is complaining that macOS lacks some fairly basic UX options and is being neglected by Apple which corrects these flaws at a glacial pace.

Oh, but they are. I'm extremely productive on stock macOS, way more than on Windows. I just don't keep complaining that Windows is broken. Some people obviously love it.

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Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by tambourine_man »

LoganDark wrote: post #44
tambourine_man wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tiring to read almost everyday on HN: “the amount of work required to make this circle into a square is ridiculous”. Some of us enjoy circles. Use whatever you like, but complaining A is not B is annoying.

You clearly missed the point of my comment, which is not to say that Windows should be Unix, but that the fact that it is not means that you probably should not be recommending it as a universal cure-all to people who probably use macOS for a reason. In other words, it only sounds "annoying" because you seem to not understand why people would use a Unix operating system, and why Windows is not a suitable substitute.…

I use a Mac, always have. My complaint is that people jump to criticize a way of working, saying it's unusable, when there are plenty of others that have enjoyed working this way for 40 years and are extremely productive that way.

Perhaps question if your old habits don't apply in a new context? And just because it's a WIMP UI you shouldn't expect it to work exactly like your former? That it's a new paradigm, with different metaphors, advantages and trade-offs?

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by programmertote »

c-hendricks wrote: post #17
ajdude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent, but one of the first things I usually install on new Mac is Karabiner-Elements. Absolutely needed if you're using a non-mac keyboard.

What do you use it for? I use a non-Apple keyboard and just switched the options / command key in System Settings.

Newbie Mac user here. I just did what you suggested (I believe it's basically what's suggested in this article: https://9to5mac.com/2016/03/17/how-to-remap-windows-keyboard...), but I don't think Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V works on browsers; I still have to use Alt+C and Alt+V to copy paste when using Chrome/Firefox browsers whereas Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V works in PyCharm.

What am I missing? Thank you in advance for your suggestion/reply!

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by LoganDark »

tambourine_man wrote: post #54
LoganDark wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You clearly missed the point of my comment, which is not to say that Windows should be Unix, but that the fact that it is not means that you probably should not be recommending it as a universal cure-all to people who probably use macOS for a reason. In other words, it only sounds "annoying" because you seem to not understand why people would use a Unix operating system, and why Windows is not a suitable substitute.…

I use a Mac, always have. My complaint is that people jump to criticize a way of working, saying it's unusable, when there are plenty of others that have enjoyed working this way for 40 years and are extremely productive that way. Perhaps question if your old habits don't apply in a new context? And just because it's a WIMP UI you shouldn't expect it to work exactly like your former? That it's a new paradigm, with di…

> My complaint is that people jump to criticize a way of working, saying it's unusable, when there are plenty of others that have enjoyed working this way for 40 years and are extremely productive that way.

Well, I didn't do that. I said Windows misses a desirable quality that macOS has, which makes it unacceptable as a substitute for macOS, specifically, if one relies on this desirable quality.

> Perhaps question if your old habits don't apply in a new context? And just because it's a WIMP UI you shouldn't expect it to work exactly like your former? That it's a new paradigm, with different metaphors, advantages and trade-offs?

Do you see how you just proved my point? According to your argument the answer would be "Well just don't desire that quality then." and, gee, I sure wish the whole tech world could just do that, it sounds so easy.

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by wdb »

ahstilde wrote: post #9
idle_zealot wrote: post #5

This is a mandatory install on macOS for me (one of many). The suite of extra software utilities required to make the base OS usable is ridiculous, but I'm glad to see open source maintainers working to keep my mouse working.

what are your other mandatory installs?

Cleanshot X and Swish [2] I really like the gestures that Swish adds.

[1] https://cleanshot.com [2] https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by sorahn »

c-hendricks wrote: post #17
ajdude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent, but one of the first things I usually install on new Mac is Karabiner-Elements. Absolutely needed if you're using a non-mac keyboard.

What do you use it for? I use a non-Apple keyboard and just switched the options / command key in System Settings.

right-option to forward delete on the internal laptop keyboard.

I used to use it to remap capslock to control, but apple has since added that to macOS itself.

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by threatofrain »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #46
tambourine_man wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's tiring to read almost everyday on HN: “the amount of work required to make this circle into a square is ridiculous”. Some of us enjoy circles. Use whatever you like, but complaining A is not B is annoying.

No one is complaining A is not B. Everyone is complaining that macOS lacks some fairly basic UX options and is being neglected by Apple which corrects these flaws at a glacial pace.

On a tangent, I don't see what's wrong with complaining that A ≠ B. Complaining is just the precursor to voting with your feet, and having more or less than competitor offerings is a natural point of comparison in a customer's mind.

Re: An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

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Post by hibbelig »

c-hendricks wrote: post #17
ajdude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent, but one of the first things I usually install on new Mac is Karabiner-Elements. Absolutely needed if you're using a non-mac keyboard.

What do you use it for? I use a non-Apple keyboard and just switched the options / command key in System Settings.

I use it to have hybrid modifier and regular keys: if I hold down caps lock like a modifier key and strike another key then it behaves like control. If I tap caps lock like I would a letter key then it behaves like escape.

Return is another hybrid between itself and control (my keyboard does not have a right control key).

Space is another hybrid with a whole lot of bindings when held down. With s it generates space so that I can have key repeat for space (don’t need that often). With hjkl it generates the cursor keys.

Does this help?

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