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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by [deleted] »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #23
lubesGordi wrote: post #10

I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout, and when we finally released our app, the company was pivoting and 'going epic mode'. I quit then. In retrospect it would've been fine if I had taken a more relaxed attitude towards it all. Sprints don't mean you have to literally sprint. Epic mode is just a narrative. Work at your pace and it'll be fine.

>I left silicon valley because of agile development. Sprinting all the time was the thing that lead to my burnout... Hard work doesn't cause burnout. Constantly feeling like you have no control or impact causes burnout.

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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by maerF0x0 »

dataflow wrote: post #43
paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

> The best you can do is learn to tune out Or look around to see if you might be able to hop over to a team or company that doesn't run like this. They do exist!

name some please. An abundance of candidates should be their reward for being well led.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by honkycat »

skydhash wrote: post #38
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #2

I view my work at AWS as being paid to deal with meetings and other people. Hadnt I bills to pay and mouths to feed, I'd be doing this "work" for free. Well, almost, I'd be coding all day, but I wouldn't set foot on a single meeting. Maybe it's a matter of perspective? It sure helps that I am working on interesting projects. Maybe the diff is that this is how I am having fun.

Enjoy it while you can. I love computer science and programming. But there’s so much CRUD apps you can work on before it stops being exciting. Now, I just do my job in the work hours, then move to personal stuff in my spare time. Unless it’s for myself, I wouldn’t work on anything if not for the money.

Agreed. I was "the programmer" among my friend group who are mostly programmers.

I still find it fun to work on something novel but I am not nearly as passionate as I used to be. Now I find music more fun.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by maerF0x0 »

coding123 wrote: post #29
paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

This is why we have vacations and the ability to quit too. Not all companies are fires all the time.

name some please. An abundance of candidates should be their reward for being well led.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by fairity »

> I’m not against hustle, but when the hustle becomes an end in-and-of-itself, rather than a means to an end, that is alarming.

Is it possible to hustle all the time & not burn out? Yes, but it takes a special type of person who values the hustle, in and of itself, which is rare.

It's important to realize that there's no right or wrong with what you choose to value.

And, as an employee, changing your org's values is probably an impossible task.

Instead, get clear on what your values are. Then, find an environment where you're surrounded with people who share your values. You'll be much happier.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by Zambyte »

fullshark wrote: post #4

Don't know if this person worked at FB, but FB literally has its walls covered in propaganda posters, designed to "inspire" but I find them to be disturbing. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebooks-propaganda-posters...

I hate these much less than I expected to honestly. In the context of Facebook they feel a bit dishonest, but the messages they convey are pretty nice.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by gitgud »

fullshark wrote: post #4

Don't know if this person worked at FB, but FB literally has its walls covered in propaganda posters, designed to "inspire" but I find them to be disturbing. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebooks-propaganda-posters...

Not as bad as I imagined, the Theranos wall is worse I think.

> ”Do or do not, there is no try”

https://makersplace.com/product/yoda-quote-theranos-headquar...

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

skydhash wrote: post #38
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #2

I view my work at AWS as being paid to deal with meetings and other people. Hadnt I bills to pay and mouths to feed, I'd be doing this "work" for free. Well, almost, I'd be coding all day, but I wouldn't set foot on a single meeting. Maybe it's a matter of perspective? It sure helps that I am working on interesting projects. Maybe the diff is that this is how I am having fun.

Enjoy it while you can. I love computer science and programming. But there’s so much CRUD apps you can work on before it stops being exciting. Now, I just do my job in the work hours, then move to personal stuff in my spare time. Unless it’s for myself, I wouldn’t work on anything if not for the money.

Had I been working on CRUD apps, I would do the same thing. The moment what I am doing stops being interesting, I just leave.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by throwaway2203 »

nine_zeros wrote: post #12

I was recently berated and given negative performance ratings for rolling something out 2 weeks late. The reason I rolled it out 2 weeks late was because we were in holiday season and the company CTO had asked people to exercise caution during holidays. But lo and behold, my management didn't like that I was cautious. They gave me a negative rating. I asked, "Why was the 2 weeks so important? Are there any customers…

Same here.

We're always getting mixed signals... "if you need to delay, delay. you're the best judge of that." And "we have commitments we have to hit at the end of the quarter."

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by robertlagrant »

fsociety wrote: post #22
fullshark wrote: post #4

Don't know if this person worked at FB, but FB literally has its walls covered in propaganda posters, designed to "inspire" but I find them to be disturbing. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebooks-propaganda-posters...

When I worked at FB, I felt like I was treated most like a human vs. a work robot at other jobs. Experience is dependent on which org you join, and the hedonic treadmill will always exist in capitalism.. but these articles on their posters are silly.

> hedonic treadmill will always exist in capitalism

It beats "they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work".

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