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I have a dumb idea; how hard is it to add a location tracker to these kind of subs? Does the high pressure make this incredibly hard to add?
Just add a line. It's only 2 miles.
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Maybe they could attach a cable and drag it up to a ship? I'm sure there's ways to help these people with joined effort
And with which equipment would you do that? Are there even submersibles with adequate tooling available in a small enough radius? I've followed an OceanGate Titanic mission where a popular travel blogger was participating in and from what I understood there aren't many submersible vessels in the world able to go so low, let alone with functionnal tools. It is not like you can open the door to a diver for him to attac…
The small submersibles used for Titanic the movie for filming the wreckage were Mirs* and a marvel of engineering for their time. However "[t]he level of technology flowing into the Soviet Union raised concern in the US and Rauma-Repola [the Finnish manufacturer] was privately threatened with economic sanctions."
What is it about this type of story that is so attention grabbing? Kids trapped in cave, Plane missing in jungle, etc etc. Is there a name for this? Pragmatically speaking, this is of little consequence to most people, there are greater human tragedies going on, there are more catastrophic engineering failures happening, more egregious negligence,.. something about the unknown element of it.
In this case, it's because everyone on board was filthy rich. If it were me or you, we'd be sleeping with the fishes without mention.
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Apparently having a tether is not a bad option. So what’s the reason they didn’t go for it?
Possibly because they were closing in a wreck and a tether can get snagged And I guess they were doing very close flyby, visibility down there is real bad.
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In this case, it's because everyone on board was filthy rich. If it were me or you, we'd be sleeping with the fishes without mention.
The parent comment already made the connection to the thai kids cave, whose story went around the world. So this part does not play a role about the sensationalism of the story. About the magnitude of the search and rescue effort.. It might do
If that cave was just full of random divers, we'd probably not heard of that one either.
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With sonar. The submarine doesn't have to locate itself, it just needs to be active pinging and it can be triangulated. Radio doesn't work underwater, but sound actually travels incredibly far (hence why military subs go all out with noise reductions). Edit: I mean the real question is why the hell does this thing not have some type of system like this already? You know the upfront expected dive time, so set a couple…
I am not a marine noise expert, but it’s my understanding that noise transmits horizontally underwater way better than vertically. Since this sub is going really deep, getting the pings to go ‘up’ to a meaningful degree is going to be difficult.
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The parent comment already made the connection to the thai kids cave, whose story went around the world. So this part does not play a role about the sensationalism of the story. About the magnitude of the search and rescue effort.. It might do
well sure, that was kids. We only remember that kids were trapped, barely if at all the adults involved. If that cave was just full of random divers, we'd probably not heard of that one either.
What is it about this type of story that is so attention grabbing? Kids trapped in cave, Plane missing in jungle, etc etc. Is there a name for this? Pragmatically speaking, this is of little consequence to most people, there are greater human tragedies going on, there are more catastrophic engineering failures happening, more egregious negligence,.. something about the unknown element of it.
>What is it about this type of story that is so attention grabbing? In this particular story: Those guys are pioneers, they are doing something almost nobody has done before, like going deep down 4 kilometres under the surface of the ocean. This takes guts. And people admire those that have the guts. It is primal instinct, as the people that take risks and survive usually makes the tribe or society improve. Things th…
They are rich tourists going down to look at a famous shipwreck, the same as hundreds of actual professionals have done. Much like the rich tourists who are mostly carried up Everest this does not take guts or ability, it takes a fat wallet and nothing more. Actually, it probably takes more ego than intelligence if you get into the craft they took down now that we have learned more about its potential safety flaws.
The nature of the event is why we are paying attention. The people trapped and how it happened is icing on the cake, but we would all still be watching if it was the Alvin submersible and some university researchers inside. To be honest we would probably care more if it was actual professionals who were at risk doing work to expand human knowledge instead of a tourist day-trip; I certainly would actually care about the outcome in that case, while I can't be bothered to care one way or the other if this particular group of tourists lives or dies.
What is it about this type of story that is so attention grabbing? Kids trapped in cave, Plane missing in jungle, etc etc. Is there a name for this? Pragmatically speaking, this is of little consequence to most people, there are greater human tragedies going on, there are more catastrophic engineering failures happening, more egregious negligence,.. something about the unknown element of it.