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Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by chimeracoder »

proaralyst wrote: post #32
getcrunk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should have a manual backup export to an encrypted format and make you responsible for the key

They have exactly that: you can set up a periodic encrypted backup under settings > chats. It'll occasionally ask you for your backup password so you don't forget it too

> They have exactly that: you can set up a periodic encrypted backup under settings > chats. It'll occasionally ask you for your backup password so you don't forget it too

Last I checked, that was Android only. And the password they periodically ask for is your PIN, which is unrelated to your backup password.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

getcrunk wrote: post #25

I see some comments saying they are happy moxie is out. I for one am saddened. I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.

I worry about what it means for the future of Signal in terms of their privacy features. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some compromises even despite good intentions. It’s good that effective alternatives exist for such use but it might frustrate people who bet on Signal in some way.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by chimeracoder »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #42
none_to_remain wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can see their bios on signalfoundation.org , but it doesn't look very promising at a glance. Think tanks, federal agencies, NGO blob, etc.

I agree, the fed connections aren't a great sign... it reminds me of when Condy Rice joined the Dropbox board. But to be fair that's the person in charge of policy, so it's the kind of profile you'd expect. (Of course, you're free to argue that a messaging application has no good reason to hire for such a position in the first place.)

> I agree, the fed connections aren't a great sign... it reminds me of when Condy Rice joined the Dropbox board.

Let's be fair: there's a big difference between "this person has worked in or near the federal government" and "this person has literally committed war crimes".

If there are specific concerns about the people on Signal's board, I'd be interested in hearing it, but having Fed connections doesn't inherently mean a whole lot.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by signaluser »

signaluser wrote: post #44
Lornedon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you respond like that to valid criticism?

Google trends is a good proxy for usage. It's not the whole picture but a good start. No need to point the obvious

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=...

Telegram on the other hand keeps growing

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

batiudrami wrote: post #36
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having a Mandela-moment - I could swear Moxie came-out as nonbinary or similar - but a quick duckduckgo search says otherwise, so apparently not. My mistake.

“They’re” works perfectly fine (albeit a little grammatically awkward) if you aren’t sure of someone’s gender anyway. Not sure why the above comment felt compelled to correct.

I thought it was funny

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by frabbit »

Katherine Maher? The US State Department definitely-not-a-spook one? The one that was at Wikipedia and "spent time in Syria and Lybia"?

Sounds wonderful for a messaging system that is going to be definitely trusted not to be manipulated by the USA.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by frabbit »

getcrunk wrote: post #25

I see some comments saying they are happy moxie is out. I for one am saddened. I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.

Moxie the anarchist owes the rest of us a public statement about what he thinks Signal is now that the board has US State Department ghouls on it.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by crossroadsguy »

getcrunk wrote: post #25

I see some comments saying they are happy moxie is out. I for one am saddened. I trusted signal in part due to his persona. And his in your face attitude towards that one company that provided software to law enforcement that claimed to hack signal.

No I am happy. Yes, he was a puritan. And what else, a benevolent dictator, who did things without taking absolutely ZERO user feedback? Yes, that definitely was the case. Yes, we are yet to see how it pans out, but it’s pointless to have a Signal that is used by so few people that it barely matters. I hope that chages.

I mean Signal is worse than Mastodon in adoption as of today and it had so so many opportunities wasted on things that were never needed (in fact those efforts should have been categorically avoided) and a lot effort was also wasted on not doing things that should have been done. Hope that changes as well with his departure. Or I’ll rather see Signal put out of its misery in a kind and quick way.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by frabbit »

chimeracoder wrote: post #53
TechBro8615 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the fed connections aren't a great sign... it reminds me of when Condy Rice joined the Dropbox board. But to be fair that's the person in charge of policy, so it's the kind of profile you'd expect. (Of course, you're free to argue that a messaging application has no good reason to hire for such a position in the first place.)

> I agree, the fed connections aren't a great sign... it reminds me of when Condy Rice joined the Dropbox board. Let's be fair: there's a big difference between "this person has worked in or near the federal government" and "this person has literally committed war crimes". If there are specific concerns about the people on Signal's board, I'd be interested in hearing it, but having Fed connections doesn't inherently…

Let`s be truly fair: the USA "federal government" is historically and presently one of the biggest committers of war crimes in the world. If you work for it you work for evil. I am sure it keeps the kids in Montessori and enables travel to the last wildernesses on earth, but that doesn`t count for much for the millions of Vietnamese, Syrian, Iraqi, Afghan, East Timorese etc etc

This announcement shows clearly that Signal is at the end of its life and it is time to jump ship.

Re: Board Changes at Signal

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Post by crossroadsguy »

candiddevmike wrote: post #4

With moxie gone, will signal remove the cryptocoin shit?

For most people (yes “most” people - who are again a minuscule fraction of IM app users) Signal is the “that other car” - not the car that they drive in the city on which “eco friendly” sticker is put, but the one which is marked eco friendly, yes, but mostly remains parked and is for rather the display of one’s principles. At least seeing the shape and form Signal is today.

So if we are being honest - it really doesn’t matter.

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