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Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by xoa »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #10
aendruk wrote: post #3

No forewarning, no post on the website, no justification, and the nasty news buried in the middle of unrelated text. It appears designed to deceive. “No bullshit” is no more. https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit That promise is what justified their slightly higher prices. With it broken, I have no reason not to transfer to a less expensive registrar. So that I’ve now done, and Gandi can try to win me back next year.

They sent out an email to their existing customers, and the price increase won't be announced til July 13

FWIW I've been a customer of Gandi.net for something like a decade now with a number of domains and many email accounts. This morning is the very first email I received from them on this (at 0025 EST this morning). I got no message about any previous email changes either. And my domain admin contact is not uniform either, email accounts there are across four different services including theirs, MXroute and GSuite. Not a spam filter issue. So yes, this feels pretty sudden here. That may or may not have been some sort of further screwup on their part, just a data point that notifications have not been uniform.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by seszett »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #12
azepoi wrote: post #4

What's a good alternative registrar based in the EU? What an unethical move, they rescind already paid contracts/accounts and the price hike is insane. The went from "no BS" to full of it. I intend to move all my domains. I also paid for the "premium" email service. But it went from 25€ per year to 86€ ! Domains are also getting a price hike and web hosting too. Time to move

I keep recommending iwantmyname, which is not Europe-based (NZ actually), but founded by some guys from Austria. I've been a customer for ten years now, and I haven't seen a nasty ReactJS redesign, or any other BS. Just a good registrar.

iwantmyname seems to be more expensive than Gandi, even after the price hike though.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

#53

Post by _cenw »

codethief wrote: post #41
TonyTrapp wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another happy INWX user for 15+ years.

And another one, for 18 years.

They once gave my data to law enforcement without notifying me, with no obligations not to notify me. It wasn't even an investigation into me, but a shotgun "everyone who talked about this gets asked to testify" case, specifically into a Witcher 3 Google Drive leak.

That aside, they're fine.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

#54

Post by fmajid »

I'd switched registrars to Gandi as a form of protest when the US seized the domains of a UK travel agency that advertised tours of Cub. Because Gandi is based in France, it is not subject to US extraterritorial overreach. I stayed despite their higher prices because of good security like using FIDO U2F keys, so less likely to have an account hijacked, as I self-host my email and that is probably the single biggest point of failure in my threat model.

Can anyone recommend a registrar outside the US that has decent security? Some mentioned OVH and their CTO is a classmate of mine, but the French government is showing worrisome authoritarian trends and I'd prefer a country with strong protections for freedom of speech like Iceland or Norway or that has strong regulation of its spooks like Germany (because of their experience with the Stasi).

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by lgvld »

xoa wrote: post #51
pcthrowaway wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sent out an email to their existing customers, and the price increase won't be announced til July 13

FWIW I've been a customer of Gandi.net for something like a decade now with a number of domains and many email accounts. This morning is the very first email I received from them on this (at 0025 EST this morning). I got no message about any previous email changes either. And my domain admin contact is not uniform either, email accounts there are across four different services including theirs, MXroute and GSuite. No…

Yes, absolutely.

Notification has been delayed for customers in some countries (not UK especially) it seems.

French customer here btw.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

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Post by [deleted] »

azepoi wrote: post #4

What's a good alternative registrar based in the EU? What an unethical move, they rescind already paid contracts/accounts and the price hike is insane. The went from "no BS" to full of it. I intend to move all my domains. I also paid for the "premium" email service. But it went from 25€ per year to 86€ ! Domains are also getting a price hike and web hosting too. Time to move

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Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

#57

Post by huhtenberg »

theshrike79 wrote: post #27
roomey wrote: post #7

Any reccomended alternatives? I've used them because they seemed the most reputable in the murky world of domain name providers.

I'm boring and I just moved my crap from Gandi to Route 53 ages ago. It's not the cheapest, but the pricing is stable and predictable, the tools are good and I can automate swapping subdomains if an IP changes trivially.

Just had a look at R53 and the price calculation page alone is enough to scare most people of :) Also their .io pricing is $70 vs $40 with most other registrars.

Do I understand correctly that they have a recurrent charge for domain DNS records?

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

#58

Post by aendruk »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #10
aendruk wrote: post #3

No forewarning, no post on the website, no justification, and the nasty news buried in the middle of unrelated text. It appears designed to deceive. “No bullshit” is no more. https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit That promise is what justified their slightly higher prices. With it broken, I have no reason not to transfer to a less expensive registrar. So that I’ve now done, and Gandi can try to win me back next year.

They sent out an email to their existing customers, and the price increase won't be announced til July 13

You’re right, there is one month of warning; I’d misread July for June. If I could I’d just edit out that complaint as the timing is secondary to their deceptive messaging around domain registration price increases.

The dark pattern seems to have worked as many here are still discussing only the mail hosting announcement in which the change to their core service was buried.

Re: Gandi.net – Pricing Update

#60

Post by em-bee »

alexghr wrote: post #33
gettodachoppa wrote: post #28

I have a single domain with 2 emails on it. What's the cheapest migration option for mail? I want to use a company with human tech support in case something goes wrong one day. No tech giants.

I've been using PurelyMail[1] (it's been on hacker news a couple of times already) for about a year now and haven't had any issues with it. It uses consumption-based pricing so for my use (with two domains set up) it comes out to about $0.5/month. I think it's a small team (maybe just one person?) that maintains it. [1]: https://purelymail.com/

this is the kind of pricing i have been looking for. i have a few accounts that are extremely low use because they serve as a backup to other channels, so with the advanced payment model i'd actually even save money over gandi's old pricing.
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