Are SSBs popular again? I remember them being all the rage with Mozilla Prism or Fluid.
Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
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Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#52I don't want to be nit-picky and it might seem like a minor nuisance, but developers will need the ability to display a small banner/prompt to educate user's about the possibility of installing the website like a regular app, otherwise it will be lost on casuals. I really hope that Apple implements this fully and doesn't use strategic loopholes to sabotage Web Apps in small but clever ways.
Sorry to be dimissive, I know it's good intentions and all, but please don't do that. We don't need any more unsolicited banners or prompts. See it's one reason native apps are so much preferred over websites. Websites always have banners and whatnot, good apps don't do these things.
Fully agree. I'd say that there should be an agreed-upon way for users to opt out of any kind of obnoxious banner/"dickbar" but it'd probably be obeyed about as often as the "do not track" flag was.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#53> Let web apps programmatically trigger the Add to Dock flow, since the Share icon and the File menu install ways are hard to discover. Please, for the sake of all decency, no! We do NOT need new ways for web sites to badger users. (Sorry to focus on this one thing. This was a great and informative article, with 99% good ideas. I just had a visceral reaction to the idea of yet more ways for sites to harass me as a us…
Seriously, I'm already sick of "let me send you desktop notifications!" popups.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#54> Let web apps programmatically trigger the Add to Dock flow, since the Share icon and the File menu install ways are hard to discover. Please, for the sake of all decency, no! We do NOT need new ways for web sites to badger users. (Sorry to focus on this one thing. This was a great and informative article, with 99% good ideas. I just had a visceral reaction to the idea of yet more ways for sites to harass me as a us…
There are so many developers that seem to have a hard time with the notion that, just because they wouldn't abuse a feature, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.
I was actually against web push notifications as a feature precisely because I knew it'd just create a thousand push notification pop-ups on the web.
And behold.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#55> Let web apps programmatically trigger the Add to Dock flow, since the Share icon and the File menu install ways are hard to discover. Please, for the sake of all decency, no! We do NOT need new ways for web sites to badger users. (Sorry to focus on this one thing. This was a great and informative article, with 99% good ideas. I just had a visceral reaction to the idea of yet more ways for sites to harass me as a us…
Seriously, I'm already sick of "let me send you desktop notifications!" popups.
All browsers should have a setting that just tells all sites that notifications are enabled but never actually shows them until the user opts in so sites can't present those stupid prompts.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#56I don't want to be nit-picky and it might seem like a minor nuisance, but developers will need the ability to display a small banner/prompt to educate user's about the possibility of installing the website like a regular app, otherwise it will be lost on casuals. I really hope that Apple implements this fully and doesn't use strategic loopholes to sabotage Web Apps in small but clever ways.
Please no. Just have a button appear on the toolbar to install the site as a web app if it has a web app manifest, like Chromium browsers do.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having tabs would just make it a browser. Your description leads me to believe you want a browser anyways, not a single app experience whatsoever.
Um am I not understanding what "Web App" means? "A web application (or web app) is application software that is accessed using a web browser. Web applications are delivered on the World Wide Web to users with an active network connection." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application
Progressive Web App
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously, I'm already sick of "let me send you desktop notifications!" popups.
All browsers should have a setting that just tells all sites that notifications are enabled but never actually shows them until the user opts in so sites can't present those stupid prompts.
And why attempt to start sending notifications if it is the first time I have visited a site? I don't know the site, I haven't had time to read any of the content. Why would I possibly want to get notifications from a site I know nothing about? Maybe if I visit it several more times in the next week or two, then ask me if I want notifications if you feel you must. Anything else is just annoying and sort of mindless.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#59Are SSBs popular again? I remember them being all the rage with Mozilla Prism or Fluid.
Yeah, seems like it; this time they have first party support by the os vendor, which is nice.
Re: Web Apps on macOS Sonoma 14 Beta
#60> Let web apps programmatically trigger the Add to Dock flow, since the Share icon and the File menu install ways are hard to discover. Please, for the sake of all decency, no! We do NOT need new ways for web sites to badger users. (Sorry to focus on this one thing. This was a great and informative article, with 99% good ideas. I just had a visceral reaction to the idea of yet more ways for sites to harass me as a us…
Seriously, I'm already sick of "let me send you desktop notifications!" popups.
To turn off notification popups, in Safari...
1. Go to Settings
2. Open Websites tab
3. Select General -> Notifications
4. Untick "Allow websites to ask for permission to send notifications"
No more notification popups!