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I have no opinion on this device or the Oculus, the thing I can say is that the Oculus is not an AR device, only VR.
Yeah... I have some news for you: https://www.google.com/glass/start/
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It isn't a "flop" if Apple knows this and expects to sell a very small number of these devices. This is a first version of a device in a very niche market that will take a long time for it to hit mainstream (if it ever does). Apple even danced around this quite a few times in how they talked about this particular product. For the first time, maybe ever, Apple hinted at future products while talking about this. I thin…
"For the first time, maybe ever, Apple hinted at future products while talking about this. I think this was made even more clear with it having the "Pro" name attached." To my knowledge this does have precedence when Apple announced they were switching from PPC to Intel. The first computer announced was the MacBook Pro, insinuating that a regular MacBook would be forthcoming to replace the iBook.
So it isn't entirely unprecedented, but I don't ever remember them even hinting at future Watches, iPhones, etc when announcing a current one. Maybe the iPhone X being an exception when they talked about it being the future of iPhone.
Spatial computing will be the dominant paradigm for the vast, vast majority of all history once it is nailed down. The mouse/keyboard/monitor paradigm will be a small footnote in the early history of HCI once it is obliviated. Apple, as always, is showing the rest of the industry the way forward here.
Spatial computing will be the dominant paradigm for the vast, vast majority of all history once it is nailed down. The mouse/keyboard/monitor paradigm will be a small footnote in the early history of HCI once it is obliviated. Apple, as always, is showing the rest of the industry the way forward here.
The keyboard is hard to beat, in terms of precise (for a human), high bandwidth (for a human) input. Maybe AI will get so good that we won’t need to be precise and high bandwidth. Hell, maybe it will just guess exactly what we want based on grunting and pointing. But we’re a ways off from there. Mouses and monitors, I could imagine losing.
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Right why talk about anything ever everyone just sit in silence.
Talking is great. Unfortunately much of the verbal spewing here on HN the last few days is just condemning, calling it stupid, making blanket statements like "no one will buy this" or other forms of diatribe with only personal bias as a basis for opinion. Many of the people criticizing clearly didn't see the presentations. Is there non-trivial risk of market failure? Of course. They are trying to create a computation…
It's not that new. It's very similar in use case to Meta, which many also think is a major airball.
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Yeah... I have some news for you: https://www.google.com/glass/start/
Shrug. What's the purpose of a smug attitude? You did none of the work, you have nothing at stake. Just sitting in the stands, talking about how you would have thrown the ball better.
I did no such thing.
In fact, I said that I disagree that this is a DoA product. Apple will probably rake in some cash with this.
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Why do I have a feeling this is going to age like all of the people who posted on Slashdot over 20 years ago. https://m.slashdot.org/story/21026
Saw a comment that goes beyond parroting that hoary cliche https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 > But the iPod was also not 10x the price of the Nomad. The iPod also had essentially the same feature set. Here the Vision Pro is undoubtedly better in ways like the screen but also seems to be lacking support for VR controllers. Right now VR gaming is pretty much the main reason VR exists.
Do you think Apple has no plans on ever selling a cheaper version?
Has the techno geek crowd ever been right about Apple?
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Saw a comment that goes beyond parroting that hoary cliche https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 > But the iPod was also not 10x the price of the Nomad. The iPod also had essentially the same feature set. Here the Vision Pro is undoubtedly better in ways like the screen but also seems to be lacking support for VR controllers. Right now VR gaming is pretty much the main reason VR exists.
And before the iPhone, making calls was the major reason for buying phones. Before the Apple Watch, telling time was the major reason for people buying Watches. Do you think Apple has no plans on ever selling a cheaper version? Has the techno geek crowd ever been right about Apple?
It’s fine to believe that there everything will work out somehow, as things are wont to do, but don’t pretend you know how it will more than the average layman. Let the miracle unfold on its own.
This guy is missing something and a bit myopic. The Visions real vision is convenience. No more holding the phone to absorb content, everywhere entertainment, immersive experiences, everything always available. The device is no where near the ideal form of just a light weight glasses, or even contacts. Between here and the future it will get more and more portable.
Yes, instead of holding a fairly small screen that is very light and fits in my pocket, I can have the "convenience" of strapping some fucking huge goggles to my head so I can enjoy that sweet motion sickness. All for the convenient price of 3.5 grand. I just don't think this is DoA because Apple fans buy any crap Apple releases, no matter the price. It will become a nice iPaperweight though.