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Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by johnnyanmac »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #50
johnnyanmac wrote: post #31

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>You want to have a little hobby of moderating a community. Fair enough, pay for your hobby. not sure I agree with this angle. If anything it's the opposite. just like how software dev is a job, so is community management. Reddit already has what amounts to free custodial labor, growing and fostering the site for them. They should be paying people to moderate that if they don't want their admins/internal Community Ma…

True. But just like software development, people do community management for a hobby.

To each their own, but you can't even pay me to deal with angry users who can't read the rules of the forum they want to post to, day in and day out. I'll never understand people who do so in their own personal time. Again, not unless they are using that as "portfolio fodder" to pivot into a professional CM role.

Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by piaste »

midoridensha wrote: post #44
soupfordummies wrote: post #37

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I feel that, we’re already on the closest one IMO. I already spend way more browsing time here than Reddit these days. That said, it does lack focused topic discussion for things like, your favorite band for instance. I guess we will all just use a million fragmented discords most likely

>That said, it does lack focused topic discussion for things like, your favorite band for instance. That was always the greatest thing about Reddit IMO: there's some really unique and highly-focused subs there. However, the fact that you have to use a single account across all the subreddits (you can use different accounts, but it's a pain) makes you very vulnerable to some crazy mod in one sub banning you and then g…

Using multiple accounts is one of the things that third-party apps made much easier, as it happens.

Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by gioo »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #47
gioo wrote: post #13

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Remember that not all 3rd party clients are/were developed for-profit, there are plenty which are open-source, have no monetization or ads, and are gonna be hit by this change too. >This isn't about Reddit being greedy. This is Reddit being greedy. They are asking $2.50 a user per month, while the revenue they make from someone using the first party reddit app on average is just $0.12 per month. [0] Add this the rest…

> Remember that not all 3rd party clients are/were developed for-profit, there are plenty which are open-source, have no monetization or ads, and are gonna be hit by this change too. People can use those open source tools on the free level that doesn't require the higher level of use. > This is Reddit being greedy. They are asking $2.50 a user per month, while the revenue they make from someone using the first party…

> People can use those open source tools on the free level that doesn't require the higher level of use.

Fair enough.

> You're mad they're trying to make money.

I'm not mad they're trying to make money, I absolutely understand that. But again, why do they want $2.50/user from a 3rd party client, while keeping the revenue from their first party app unchanged?

The excuse for API changes was fairness (3rd party client using the API for free while making a profit isn't fair), but charging this much just shows that they don't want 3rd party clients to compete in the first place. Which is also fine, if only they admitted it.

Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by that_guy_iain »

gioo wrote: post #53
that_guy_iain wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remember that not all 3rd party clients are/were developed for-profit, there are plenty which are open-source, have no monetization or ads, and are gonna be hit by this change too. People can use those open source tools on the free level that doesn't require the higher level of use. > This is Reddit being greedy. They are asking $2.50 a user per month, while the revenue they make from someone using the first party…

> People can use those open source tools on the free level that doesn't require the higher level of use. Fair enough. > You're mad they're trying to make money. I'm not mad they're trying to make money, I absolutely understand that. But again, why do they want $2.50/user from a 3rd party client, while keeping the revenue from their first party app unchanged? The excuse for API changes was fairness (3rd party client u…

I believe the official excuse is they need the money to invest in the developer platform.

Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by davidguetta »

braza wrote: post #2

Personally I feel bad for all those folks that moderates/contributes in Reddit and at Stack Overflow. Imagine pour hundreds of hours for the sake of enjoyment, sharing or nurturing a community and due to some market circumstances not having a saying in any decision. To be honest, seeing those movements from those companies makes me feel that the future of open communities (but some how walled) it’s bleak.

To be blunt it's would be a bit dumb to "expect" to have a say in business affairs when all you do is something like moderating a cat subreddit for your own enjoyment..

Be happy while it lasted is the good approach. Cover contracts are bad in general but in this case this would just be insane

Re: We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th

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Post by albatross13 »

dang wrote: post #57
albatross13 wrote: post #10

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