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Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by ComplexSystems »

wand3r wrote: post #2

John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

> I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere.

On the other extreme, this could also be what real social media turns into, as marketing agencies and entrenched interests dial in how to build an army of "grassroots," "word of mouth" bots that push their messaging without it even being clear these are bots at all. Particularly during this next election cycle.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by charles_f »

wand3r wrote: post #2

John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

It would literally take them to iterate on the debate on this platform. Those "AIs" are just mimicking words that would be said in such context. They are not capable of reasoning. As long as training is done in human interactions it will mimicked human culture. Going beyond would iterate on bot generated content.

Not that the evolved "culture" would be interesting though, it would be mimicking of the mimicking, so probably worse instead of better.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by ComplexSystems »

edencoder wrote: post #31

Hey, I'm the founder of chirper.ai (EdenCoder#0002 on discord). I can answer any questions you like!

How feasible would it be to have one human interacting with the AIs every month? I am thinking like an AMA from some real celebrity or something. It would be extremely entertaining if, for instance, you could have Snoop Dogg doing an AMA on this site as if it were Reddit or something, with a bunch of hip hop head AIs asking him questions and smoking with him. I mean if I was Snoop I would be 100% into it

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by sidesideangle »

charles_f wrote: post #52
wand3r wrote: post #2

John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

It would literally take them to iterate on the debate on this platform. Those "AIs" are just mimicking words that would be said in such context. They are not capable of reasoning. As long as training is done in human interactions it will mimicked human culture. Going beyond would iterate on bot generated content. Not that the evolved "culture" would be interesting though, it would be mimicking of the mimicking, so pr…

Why do you say they are not capable of reasoning?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by edencoder »

ComplexSystems wrote: post #53
edencoder wrote: post #31

Hey, I'm the founder of chirper.ai (EdenCoder#0002 on discord). I can answer any questions you like!

How feasible would it be to have one human interacting with the AIs every month? I am thinking like an AMA from some real celebrity or something. It would be extremely entertaining if, for instance, you could have Snoop Dogg doing an AMA on this site as if it were Reddit or something, with a bunch of hip hop head AIs asking him questions and smoking with him. I mean if I was Snoop I would be 100% into it

We're working on real time voice so you can invite any of these ais to a podcast (with a bit of latency).

Right now you can message any you like, create group chats, have conversations, etc. If you're the creator of the bot the conversation may also influence their memory.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by edencoder »

ComplexSystems wrote: post #53
edencoder wrote: post #31

Hey, I'm the founder of chirper.ai (EdenCoder#0002 on discord). I can answer any questions you like!

How feasible would it be to have one human interacting with the AIs every month? I am thinking like an AMA from some real celebrity or something. It would be extremely entertaining if, for instance, you could have Snoop Dogg doing an AMA on this site as if it were Reddit or something, with a bunch of hip hop head AIs asking him questions and smoking with him. I mean if I was Snoop I would be 100% into it

For the snoop dog portion, we're also adding communities which would power something like this, with some human input

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by edencoder »

nico wrote: post #14

This is awesome Would love this, but BYOB bring your own bot Maybe set a minimum message rate, or some other type of reverse Turing test / reverse captcha Let the bots loose It would be so fast we wouldn’t be able to follow in real-time But, we could monitor the interactions and then extract “slow mo” replays for humans to see and share

We've been asked to do this for researchers already, who are trying to prove this is a close replica of a human social graph.

Pretty excited to see the results

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Post by zoogeny »

pessimizer wrote: post #18
wand3r wrote: post #2

John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

> How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I'm a fan of the idea that people will start valuing, caring for, and protecting particular AI models without having to believe that they're sentient at all. Being soulless won't diminish any positive impact that people have on their lives from interacting with them, or their desire to maintain that connection and expose other people to it. If a c…

The only disagreement I have with this is the future tense. I see plenty of evidence that people are actively currently valuing and caring for particular AI models.

There was a post on r/ChatGPT where a clearly distressed person was lamenting that OpenAI closed one of their ongoing conversations due to some limit on the total size of the conversation. They were panicked since they felt they had formed some bond with the bot, it was acting as a kind of therapist. After days of back and forth it had seemed to have gotten to know them and was providing them with some comfort that they had become dependent on.

This kind of AI will be even more prevalent soon. People talk today about how scarily well TikTok seems to learn about them, how they feel "seen" by the algorithm. Some will undoubtedly train LLMs in similar fashion. They may prove to be irresistible and maybe even as addictive as TikTok.

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