Times New Bastard

Post by mattkevan » Fri, May 26, 2023, 10:03 PM UTC

yarg wrote: post #37

mc32 wrote: post #28

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So something like Helvetica but every so often you sneak in Arial?

That wouldn't be bad, but I think you could do something more off-putting with something like deliberately slightly bad kerning. I'm not sure of the extent to which you could use ligatures to tweak the serifs, rather than remove them completely (if possible - frustration will be maximised if the reader is unable to tell what's wrong, even after they come to believe that something is wrong).

Post by yarg » Fri, May 26, 2023, 10:06 PM UTC

mattkevan wrote: post #51

yarg wrote: post #37

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That wouldn't be bad, but I think you could do something more off-putting with something like deliberately slightly bad kerning. I'm not sure of the extent to which you could use ligatures to tweak the serifs, rather than remove them completely (if possible - frustration will be maximised if the reader is unable to tell what's wrong, even after they come to believe that something is wrong).

Had the idea a while back to make posters and t-shirts with ‘I [heart] Helvetica’ on them, but set in Arial to wind up design nerds. But realised that 99.999% of anyone except possibly myself wouldn’t notice of care.

Post by kyle-rb » Fri, May 26, 2023, 10:15 PM UTC

fsckboy wrote: post #17

KerrAvon wrote: post #12

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I see a lot of the "why do people hate Comic Sans" articles on the web think it's just because it's a handwritten, casual font used in inappropriate situations, but this seems like post-hoc rationalization. It's the Comic Sans look specifically that people intensely dislike, not "handwritten" fonts in general. The original and better case against Comic Sans was that there were much better handwritten, comic-text-styl…

stylistically, my personal taste is that Comic Sans is exactly the right font to use for serious warning signs like in a kitchen, such as "DON'T TOUCH, handle gets HOT" or something. Anything official looking I have a tendency to ignore as boilerplate, but comic sans seems like a personal friendly message directed at me if any of the objection is to the precise letter drawings, ok fine, give me a different one, but t…

Post by JusticeJuice » Fri, May 26, 2023, 10:18 PM UTC

augustk wrote: post #19

Blahah wrote: post #7

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> I think it's the different point size (or whatever that word is for the horizontal height lines that fonts live within). Agreed! The x-height [0] (among other things) differs jarringly between the serif and sans fonts used. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-height#:~:text=In%20typogr... .

I wish you could specify the x-height of a font in CSS. If you mix serif and sans serif you want them to look like they have the same size. It would have been nice if the default browser fonts were selected to have the same x-height.

Post by cyanydeez » Fri, May 26, 2023, 10:26 PM UTC