No arrangement view? deal breaker. Hopefully they add in the future.
Ableton Push 3
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#52Looks like they nailed it.
1. Users have been asking for Push 3 for years
2. MPE support looks great
3. Now it's here - and standalone
4. It's modular - you can start out with the non-standalone version and upgrade later
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#53I'm a hobbyist music "producer" ; an Ableton user for short, and also a programmer. I cannot express how happy i'm to finally be able to let go of OSX & Windows forever. This is what i'm realizing writing these lines. I'm so happy right now.
Get an iPad. You can do all this and a ton more.
Which app would you suggest ?
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#54Personally, I don't really like the Push platform, having previously owned a Push 2. I can understand the value of it if you're performing live, however the hard reality is that it's a really inefficient way to create electronic music. The mouse and keyboard are simply a lot faster to use. With that said, maybe that's for you. But if you're trying to make advanced productions as quickly as possible, then I really see…
This is a reason ableton live is called ... live. It is made to create music with the idea to play it live. The Push is the actual controller for the live performance.
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#55I wonder what kind of software it is running on standalone mode
It's probably a Linux stack. A lot of pro-audio companies have internal Linux versions, but don't ship them because of support / packaging reasons (which are miserable on Linux). That goes away for embedded usage.
I't think, it's not packaging. From RPM to DEB to Snap to flatpack there are lots of options. But support I get. KDE, Gnome or whatever choice of window manager, many different distributions etc., that sounds like support hell.
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#56I'm a hobbyist music "producer" ; an Ableton user for short, and also a programmer. I cannot express how happy i'm to finally be able to let go of OSX & Windows forever. This is what i'm realizing writing these lines. I'm so happy right now.
I don't think standalone push is made to write music in standalone mode. The way I see it you import your live project to it with the idea to carry only the push in the stage without having to hook it up to a laptop.
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#57Personally, I don't really like the Push platform, having previously owned a Push 2. I can understand the value of it if you're performing live, however the hard reality is that it's a really inefficient way to create electronic music. The mouse and keyboard are simply a lot faster to use. With that said, maybe that's for you. But if you're trying to make advanced productions as quickly as possible, then I really see…
If you aren’t great at piano then using a push in note scale mode is fantastic. Another benefit is when recording automation you can turn the knobs to add a human element over something like point and clicking points. It’s an excellent tool for creating music, not just for live.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a sequencer. It doesn't produce sound by itself, but produces notes to be used for other devices to produce sound. You might be better off getting a Circuit Tracks or something (any groovebox) before diving deeper into the hobby, it will be more gratifying than buying individual hardware like that.
They said version 2 will be a midi generator, version 1 a midi controller. I have an OP-1 and OP-Z, looking to go in a different direction.
That doesn't make much sense. A MIDI controller generates MIDI notes, like when you press a key there is two MIDI notes being sent, one "on" and one "off". When you use something like an arpeggiator, the MIDI controller would generate one MIDI note each 1/8 for as long as you hold the key.
Or what would be the functional difference between a MIDI generator and controller?
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#60Very cool but surely it can't be long before AI can generate top quality music? Of course people will still keep creating, and I'm sure there will be an 'organic' no-AI movement, but the exciting music tech of the next 10 years is going to be in that space in between the two... (Ableton user since version 4)
As with text, the current form of AI (generative AI) will be very good at creating music that sounds good, not good music.
Ok fair, but most of the work of music creation is in making it sound good. I suspect the right combination of generative AI plus a little human guidance at the conceptual level should result in music that is good, with minimal effort. And to think I wasted all those years improving my piano ;-)