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The AI revolution already transforming education

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Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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> …forcing children to spend years learning longhand sums that can be easily done by computers. If we don't teach this, we'll forget how we got computers to do arithmetic in the first place. Not teaching basic arithmetic skills would be unconscionable.

Calligraphy is similar. Once an important art, now not even an afterthought. We need a understanding of math and algorithms but not really knowledge of the procedures.

Long addition is similar to calligraphy in the sense that its deprecation would have little effect on our civilisation's ability to continue functioning as is. They also both require patience to learn. The analogy is tempting.

However, contained within the process of learning long addition is a microcosm of our mathematical praxis: useful parables about logic, pattern, deduction, notation, communication, quantity, and more. There is a great deal to be derived from its study which, by scaffolding young minds, leads to more mathematical scientists, and hence value for society. I would have great difficulty arguing the same for calligraphy.

I don't always go out walking because I have somewhere to go!

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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"The software even received a B grade on a core Wharton School MBA course, prompting business school deans across the world to convene emergency faculty meetings on their future." A transcript of those meetings would be worth reading. How far are we from "Microsoft Middle Manager 2.0 with passive-aggressive set to low?"

MMM2.0 Recommends you buy more Microsoft value added services....

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time that a hype of this magnitude blew every other conversational topic away? Something is being transformed all right, the interesting question is how long it will last.

My guess is when enough LLM tools have been created for various use cases, until the insurmountable flaws of their nature are finally broadly realized (of course not implying there's no usefulness to them).

Agreed. And if this fad lasts long enough for future generations to remember, they'll make fun of us for calling it “AI”. It's the equivalent of believing in the existence of witches and devils. It may be explainable in light of the standards of the time, but it still makes us look, er, unintelligent.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mind if I ask what decade your age is? The appearance of LLMs has been the strangest phenomenon. If course not everyone agrees, but I feel like I'm watching the arrival of the automobile and am having people say to me "It's loud, it's slow and it breaks down often. There's nothing to see here. It's just a fad.". Just about everyone in tech I know in person in their 40s and above, believe this will be the biggest thin…

Exact opposite experience on my end - impressionable gen-z kids, and people with minimal background on the topic,* are seeing it as the second coming of christ, where as all the math-and-adjacent PhDs, especially ML-focused, I work with are not buying the hype. * There's really bizarre tendency of that group to woo-woo and anthropomorphize all those language models. I get answers like "oh it just knows" or "you shoul…

Today's AI(ML) is "just" big statistics. And so ...

The math-and-adjacent cohort you mention would like to avoid another "AI winter".

It's possible "you should try it" is a UX use case indicator that (perhaps akin to engineers who don't understand why normies buy iPhones) those telling you this feel you're missing something essential about the experience of this tech's utility: "You may be right, but this works for me, while whatever else you're on about ... doesn't."

As for woo woo, this is the first time the big statistics are indistinguishable from magic for them, passing the Turing Test en masse.

Re: The AI revolution already transforming education

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mind if I ask what decade your age is? The appearance of LLMs has been the strangest phenomenon. If course not everyone agrees, but I feel like I'm watching the arrival of the automobile and am having people say to me "It's loud, it's slow and it breaks down often. There's nothing to see here. It's just a fad.". Just about everyone in tech I know in person in their 40s and above, believe this will be the biggest thin…

Exact opposite experience on my end - impressionable gen-z kids, and people with minimal background on the topic,* are seeing it as the second coming of christ, where as all the math-and-adjacent PhDs, especially ML-focused, I work with are not buying the hype. * There's really bizarre tendency of that group to woo-woo and anthropomorphize all those language models. I get answers like "oh it just knows" or "you shoul…

Highly educated people spent a very long time creating a moat economically with their intelligence. Now, a being of intelligence can augment anyone without having to waste most of their lives learning, and most of professionally brain work is about to be obsolete.

Who has more to lose with the advent of such a tool?

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