TikTok is now banned in Montana • Hacker News Board

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by MikusR » Thu, May 18, 2023, 4:57 AM UTC

Also Telegram

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by exabrial » Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:07 AM UTC

good, please ban facebook next.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by proxiful-wash » Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:08 AM UTC

tiedieconderoga wrote: post #29

>The law specifies that no penalties apply to users of TikTok. But app store operators and TikTok itself could face fines of $10,000 per violation per day, with an individual violation defined as “each time that a user accesses TikTok, is offered the ability to access TikTok, or is offered the ability to download TikTok.” Sounds like a money-printing machine.

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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by client4 » Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:55 AM UTC

It's the beginning of States waking up and helping protect citizens privacy when it comes to technology. Sure this is a one-off directed at TikTok, but Montanan's have a constitutional right to privacy that's being violated daily by technology companies. Another great bill to check out is by State Senator Daniel Zolnikov regarding consumer data privacy. I'm optimistic for a future where I have a legally enforceable right to privacy. Specifically one where I can use modern technology without the depraved acceptance I'm giving up my digital privacy.

http://laws.leg.mt.gov/legprd/law0210W$BSIV.ActionQuery?P_BI...

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 18, 2023, 5:59 AM UTC

client4 wrote: post #54

It's the beginning of States waking up and helping protect citizens privacy when it comes to technology. Sure this is a one-off directed at TikTok, but Montanan's have a constitutional right to privacy that's being violated daily by technology companies. Another great bill to check out is by State Senator Daniel Zolnikov regarding consumer data privacy. I'm optimistic for a future where I have a legally enforceable r…

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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by Spivak » Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:18 AM UTC

throwaway5959 wrote: post #10

How is this constitutional?

Wait for the lawsuit from the ACLU + collation to drop. It likely isn't.

It's technically a secret that they're going to sue but everyone already knows at this point so it's fine.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by himinlomax » Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:37 AM UTC

welshwelsh wrote: post #42

unfunco wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does free speech have to do with this?

Tik tok videos are speech, therefore banning tiktok is a violation of free speech

You are free to post the exact same content on any other platform. It's not the speech that's banned, it's the platform.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by stevefan1999 » Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:38 AM UTC

And people would just use VPN to dodge this anyway just like how people from Louisiana dodged PornHub ban.

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by mock-possum » Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:43 AM UTC

I don’t like TikTok

But I don’t like this

Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana

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Post by chris-orgmenta » Thu, May 18, 2023, 6:43 AM UTC

"Is there a good reason to ban TikTok?... the answer is still “nobody knows.”

I believe the second sentence answers the first, but not in the way the author intended. I'm not fundamentally insisting that we legally declare all data compromised until proven otherwise, but there is reasonable risk here that we cannot assuage.

As for whether SB 419 can be upheld: Eh. ~50 states, one of which is being used as a test here. Fine, that's one of the great benefits of the state+fed system. This is probing and forcing people to have the conversation, and that alone feels like this is worth it. Of course I 'sacrifice' Montana residents with this statement, which I arguably have no right to do.