Are there honest lawyers and honest lawyer referral services? Do email and web browsing still work for people who try to use them?
My impression is that these are very much open questions.
Updating our inactive account policies
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Re: Updating our inactive account policies
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has been reported that they will not be reusable for exactly that reason. https://9to5google.com/2023/05/16/google-account-delete/
There's an argument that this should be done with domain names as well. Right now, anyone can buy an expired domain, set up a wildcard email address, and read any email that's still being sent to addresses in that domain. Conversely, if you take the advice of some to set up a personal domain for your email, you are basically committing to a lifetime obligation. If you later change your mind and let that domain expire…
And if you don't take that advice, you are committing to someone else's lifetime obligation. Or the extent of their funding/desire/or attention span.
Re: Updating our inactive account policies
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has been reported that they will not be reusable for exactly that reason. https://9to5google.com/2023/05/16/google-account-delete/
There's an argument that this should be done with domain names as well. Right now, anyone can buy an expired domain, set up a wildcard email address, and read any email that's still being sent to addresses in that domain. Conversely, if you take the advice of some to set up a personal domain for your email, you are basically committing to a lifetime obligation. If you later change your mind and let that domain expire…
Domains are like real estate. You may end up with a nuce prime real estate in cheap & do nothing. You bought a good domain long ago and not using it. You may buy a domain/property, raize everything & start from scratch. If you abandon a plot/property, domain, and not pay the dues (taxes) or registration fees, anybody can come & claim it through defined procedures.
Same way I may buy a home & get mail. Tomorrow if I sell that home I need to do change my address with senders, and make sure to put forwarding (maybe keep the old domain for few weeks/ this year)
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#54Does anyone know what the previous policy was?
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#55This ... is not what is going on. When I worked at $bigcorp serving billions in traffic, what happened is that botnets would create accounts and leave them dormant for weeks/months/years (thousands of them), then start doing their bot thing. Account age says a lot when it comes to trust (usually) and spam detection. That's more than likely what they're seeing, not 'compromised' accounts. All this does is tell the spa…
> This ... is not what is going on. I am reasonably confident that Google are more aware of what's going on with dormant accounts on their platform than you are. I previously worked at Google in Security and while it wasn't in user protection, I know they have quite a few signals for determining compromise. It's pretty trivial to see that an account that was in legitimate use for 5 years and then dormant for 5 vs one…
Yes, we saw the same thing. But when spot-checking the activity we realized it was super-low-effort legitimate activity. IOW, it could have been sweat shops or scripted bots going through some motions.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not just poor health, there's an entire subclass of Americans who don't have internet access for 2 years+ - most anyone in the prison system. Now as a secret unmentionable for any 2+ year sentence: lose access to all your google shit .
They can give their password to a trusted friend/family member, and have them log in once every few months to keep the account active. Yes, it’s a pain, what if they forget, etc, but it means a 2+ year sentence does not necessarily entail losing one’s account. Could someone start a subscription paid service for the incarcerated - “we keep your accounts alive while you are inside”? More broadly, could provide other “m…
They have email, internet, social media and video chat in jail. It costs a lot of money but they have the ability to access the internet. The library has free or reduced cost internet but the tablet in the cell is the big bucks.
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#57... I'm about to explode.
I have a very old youtube account which I can't recover, in fact there's 2 of them. They have content on them that I will never be able to reproduce, but I watch it from time to time for nostalgia.
This post means that Alphabet will delete old legacy content on a huge scale. The world will be poorer for their culture. It will lose the ability to watch very old youtube videos.
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#58... I'm about to explode. I have a very old youtube account which I can't recover, in fact there's 2 of them. They have content on them that I will never be able to reproduce, but I watch it from time to time for nostalgia. This post means that Alphabet will delete old legacy content on a huge scale. The world will be poorer for their culture. It will lose the ability to watch very old youtube videos.
you are right but for your case, yt-dlp.
Re: Updating our inactive account policies
#59I have a google account I haven't been able to log into for some time, because even though I know the password, it flagged "suspicious activity" at some point and has required me to verify with a phone number I no longer have, from when I lived in the U.S. (I now live in Canada, but it did let me log in from Canada when I first moved here)
I was hoping that some day, someone would register that phone number and I'd be able to convince them to give me an authentication code, but it sounds like now the account will be deleted before this happens.
This really sucks because I think that email was used to register with a bitcoin exchange that I may have some (formerly) tiny balance on. So effectively google has locked me out of an account that could have financial consequences, with no way for me to recover it.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, let's profit from their misery and invest some of the proceeds to lobby for policies that secure and further grow this customer segment. /s
You make it sound like the only possible motivation a person might have to start such a business would be to exploit the incarcerated. What if the founder is a former inmate, and says “I wish there was something like that available when I was on the inside?” Even if the business is officially classified as “for-profit”, there’s a big difference between a business seeking a living wage for its founders and employees v…
It's a large nation-wide industry, so I imagine at some point during the business's growth, the founder may be bought out, or the oversight of corporate management lets profit drive the decisions in its various departments.