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Re: The Sourdough Framework

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I thought this was going to be yet another javascript frontend framework with yet another less than descriptive name, but lo and behold this is actually about sourdough. Neat! EDIT: Appears the author has one for Pizza Dough[0]. Gotta try that one out as it's more applicable to me than sourdough. [0] https://github.com/hendricius/pizza-dough

lmao my thought exactly

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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I know the HN hivemind just updoots whatever tickles the hive-fancy for the day, but in my current day, it's hard to see this trending on HN and think anything other than software engineering as an industry has simply given up, and is just becoming things like breadmakers now. Farming, pottery, basketweaving are probably also decent career segues.

I literally got so fed up with trying to debug another team's service that I stood up to quell my frustration by eating, like most people do. In my attempt to procure a sandwich, the POS terminal — which has only a hole for chip and pin cards — asked me to swipe the magstripe on my card.

Since I can't even buy a sandwich, I suppose this guide will come in handy for the bread.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

#53

I know the HN hivemind just updoots whatever tickles the hive-fancy for the day, but in my current day, it's hard to see this trending on HN and think anything other than software engineering as an industry has simply given up, and is just becoming things like breadmakers now. Farming, pottery, basketweaving are probably also decent career segues. I literally got so fed up with trying to debug another team's service…

I think "tickles the hive-fancy" needs to be a concept - Inwant the economist to write articles about it. :-)

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who bakes bread and other doughy items weekly and has for over a decade, bread machines are more work than making by hand and make bread that sucks. If you use less yeast, and let it slow rise there's no kneeding involved and it tastes way better.

Agreed! Bread machines don't make sense. You can make a very simple dough in 1 minute of work. I recommend 500g whole rye or wheat, 400g water, 100g sourdough starter, 20g salt. Mix all with a spatula for 1 minute until no chunks of flour are left. Put into greased loaf pan. Wait until roughly doubled in size. Bake in the oven at 200°C until core temperature is 92°C.

I do 1.5 cups of water, 3 cups of flour, sourdough starter and some amount of salt that it around 1 or 2 teaspoons. Mix with a spatula for a minute as well, and then put a lid on it and leave it on the counter overnight. Bake at 500°F for 45 minutes in a dutch oven or a ceramic cookware that's loaf shaped.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

#55
post #3

I thought this was going to be yet another javascript frontend framework with yet another less than descriptive name, but lo and behold this is actually about sourdough. Neat! EDIT: Appears the author has one for Pizza Dough[0]. Gotta try that one out as it's more applicable to me than sourdough. [0] https://github.com/hendricius/pizza-dough

sourdough.js was initially appreciated for being an airy-light framework, but as it rose to a great height many security holes were spotted under the crust; it wasn't quite ready for the daily crunch of production. The dev team tried to butter over these concerns, but it wasn't enough. It was forgotten and the codebase is mostly stale now.

Clever. Time to use Rusk. Oh no that’s Rust isn’t it.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

#57

I love the idea of "compiling" a book. Do people do this with music? I really like the idea of programmatically making music and compiling it.

Have I got a thrill for you!

https://www.mutopiaproject.org

https://lilypond.org

https://www.hacklily.org

...it really helped me understand why "$SCORE = ( $MELODY + $BASS )" was sometimes superior to viewing sheet music as a "wall of notes and chords". You have to "play the wall" as it comes at you, but mentally, thinking of it as "melody goes la la la, bass goes boom bang boom" helps to provide context to what are the roles of the two notes you're playing.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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I should make some of these for savory cooking. I'm a classically trained chef, (though glad I no longer work in food service,) designer, artist, long-time developer, and have a useful balance between the technical and aesthetic perspectives on cooking.

While I'd normally call a document like this a deep-dive into a "technique" or, maybe a collection of techniques, calling it a framework might be a useful mental model for the dev crowd. Recipes lie-- without knowing the underlying reasons that certain techniques work the way they do, you'll never really know what you're going for and why. This stuff is not difficult to explain, but recipes aren't the appropriate places to explain it. Most people are really surprised to see how few recipes there are in many professional cooking text books. They're similar to books about programming languages while cookbooks are essentially collections of standalone tutorials that don't explain much theory.

Is there any particular deep dive you'd enjoy reading about? Meat cookery really trips people up. As does seasoning. Sauces too.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Ah, the Bread Code guy! Engineer + chef, definitely my type of person.

I was recently following some of his YT videos, the invaluable tip that I got from him (and I haven't seen elsewhere) is to take a sample of the dough and observe its rise, to know when the main dough is ready for baking.

I just made a beautiful baguette yesterday using this tip!

Re: The Sourdough Framework

#60

I should make some of these for savory cooking. I'm a classically trained chef, (though glad I no longer work in food service,) designer, artist, long-time developer, and have a useful balance between the technical and aesthetic perspectives on cooking. While I'd normally call a document like this a deep-dive into a "technique" or, maybe a collection of techniques, calling it a framework might be a useful mental mode…

From a security perspective, as someone who enjoys cooking as a hobby, I thought it would be interesting to use a tactic-by-technique perspective. You could visualize the tactics and techniques as a matrix of cooking techniques grouped by tactics moving from researching menus, procuring ingredients, preparing ingredients, to cutting/trimming techniques, to cooking/grilling/sauteing, to plating/presenting.
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