What kind of deep learning startups survived or thrived? The underlying technology (of gpt et al) is racing towards being a commodity. There are very few "pure play" "AI" companies left from the deep learning wave, and what few there are pivoted to become SaaS with some ML features. Something similar will happen here. Companies that solve a business pain point, irrespective of whatever "AI" will get somewhere.
Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
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Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#52I thought this article could have been about 95% shorter (let's just say I saw high irony in the cartoon in the article about using AI to summarize needlessly wordy emails). I think the only place "GPT startups" will really thrive long term is specific niche business areas where the big boys (Google/MSFT) are not likely to want to compete. For example, there was an HN post about a legal startup that used AI for vario…
So you're saying that Google, Microsoft, etc., do have moat that smaller companies don't have. Otherwise, I see no reason why these companies couldn't continue to compete with large corporations. For example, if the makers of Papyrus Author successfully integrate AI into their writing application, they would continue to have the same competitive advantage over Microsoft Word they had before - unless Microsoft's AI is…
I didn't really understand your point. But bringing up Papyrus Author is a great example I think of what I was saying. I'm not previously familiar with Papyrus Author, and I don't know how popular they are, but it's clear they are very much targeting creative writing authors specifically. Their hope is clearly that they can provide enough value to this group so that their price is worth it over a more generic word processor.
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#53I think the only possible moats for AI startups are in seedy or unethical areas like disregarding copyright or stuff related to sex (AI waifus). These areas are getting less attention and have no likelihood of getting zero'd by openai or google.
Not sure about disregarding copyright, like skimming around it?
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#54Let's call the other guys "Gatekeepers" (Open.AI, Google with Bard, etc). Option 1: none. Most of the value will be captured by Gatekeepers Option 2: Gatekeepers will partially commoditize their service, and on top of them, several startups will thrive by creating something not easily replicable by Gatekeepers (via patents, via speed of execution, via viral growth, etc). Example: biggest GPT-powered media startup wil…
“ biggest GPT-powered e-learning startup will compete with higher ed - Stanford, MIT, etc.”
The higher up the content complexity pipeline you go, the more complex and correct the content will need to be. For this reason, the biggest e-learning AI product will disrupt the bottom of the market first (k-12) to replace legacy curriculum and assessment companies.
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#55I thought this article could have been about 95% shorter (let's just say I saw high irony in the cartoon in the article about using AI to summarize needlessly wordy emails). I think the only place "GPT startups" will really thrive long term is specific niche business areas where the big boys (Google/MSFT) are not likely to want to compete. For example, there was an HN post about a legal startup that used AI for vario…
Any other examples? Law is a trillion dollar industry and the AI startup mentioned, Harvey is a backed by Open AI
Here are some other examples I can think of:
1. Architecture. I could easily see architecture-specific AI tools being incorporated into design apps.
2. Similarly, interior design tools.
3. AI tools for construction.
4. Anything in healthcare. Healthcare is so regulated and privacy is obviously paramount thus I'm sure there will be companies that spend a ton of time/money providing "HIPAA-compliant" diagnostic support tools.
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
For example? Looking at killed by google I don’t see any obvious examples
Many of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unicorn_startup_compan... could've been in theory done (to the point that there was no room for a multi-$b startup) by Google (Canva, Instacart, Telegram, Miro, Airtable), but weren't.
Your contributions to this discussion have been very thoughtful and quite interesting to read. Upvotes stopped sufficing. Thanks for adding so much!
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#57Most AI startups for the next couple of years are just going to be scams that work of the back of OpenAI's API. My work place is currently under an onslaught of every person thinking there's a plethora of tools to do there job for them when it's just all OpenAI in the end. I believe AI is here to stay and will revolutionize the work place. I just feel way to many people are going about it the wrong way.
Uh you could make the same accusation about processors or cloud or any base technology. I think your view here is stunningly naive. Fine tuning GPT4 produces real and tangible differences let alone building an interface for specific workflows.
You cannot fine tune gpt-4 yet, unless there is some private access to do so I have not heard of.
https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/fine-tuning/what-mod...
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#58the sub-question in here of 'what is SEO for GPT' is interesting how do you incept a model to tell someone to use your product as a society that's been through ten years of extreme adtech, will we crack down on ad placement in LLMs? ready for someone's dystopian arxiv post about how to inject RTB in the attention heads
I imagine gpt will use the same or similar heuristics as SEO to determine what to include I.e number of backlinks
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unicorn_startup_compan... could've been in theory done (to the point that there was no room for a multi-$b startup) by Google (Canva, Instacart, Telegram, Miro, Airtable), but weren't.
Your contributions to this discussion have been very thoughtful and quite interesting to read. Upvotes stopped sufficing. Thanks for adding so much!
Thanks for mentioning, I appreciate it. What was most helpful or interesting?
Re: Which kinds of GPT startups will thrive?
#60I thought this article could have been about 95% shorter (let's just say I saw high irony in the cartoon in the article about using AI to summarize needlessly wordy emails). I think the only place "GPT startups" will really thrive long term is specific niche business areas where the big boys (Google/MSFT) are not likely to want to compete. For example, there was an HN post about a legal startup that used AI for vario…
Any other examples? Law is a trillion dollar industry and the AI startup mentioned, Harvey is a backed by Open AI
We're taking a shot at hardware engineering: www.valispace.com/ai/
And I see similar things happening for major fields such as education, law, art, software development, management, etc. Here I looked into a few examples of what is happening in these fields already: https://assistedeverything.substack.com/p/the-age-of-assiste...