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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by wanderlust123 »

alephnerd wrote: post #26
mildmotive wrote: post #16

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> https://indianexpress.com/ India hates Pakistan. Knowing this, it’s hard not to take what they have to say about Pakistan’s politics with a grain of salt.

Lots of Pakistani journalists publish in Indian newspapers due to censorship in Pakistan. Just about every English language Indian newspaper has a column published by senior Pakistani journalists and press offices in every major city in Pakistan. There's a very healthy cross-border journalism ecosystem in South Asia.

You need to look a bit deeper. Dawn journalists are not bastions of journalistic integrity. They’re mostly on the pmln pay roll.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by hackernewds »

anaganisk wrote: post #21

Contrary to popular belief, at least in my country (India). I feel bad for the citizens of Pakistan. There has not been a single stint of govt that has lasted peacefully since independence. A country can never grow without a peaceful transfer of power, and constant political imbalance will just not allow anything to advance. A shared history/culture with us and it's a shame our govts have differences. We fought toget…

> drifted apart

is a kind way of framing "were partitioned intentionally to foment division, by the departing colonizers"

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by [deleted] »

mandmandam wrote: post #15
polishdude20 wrote: post #9

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Whoever provides the infrastructure needs to be paid though right? How do you pay the satellite provider?

If you want to learn about the many different ways to accomplish goals like this, you can look into the terms 'decentralization' and 'post-scarcity society'.

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Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by ummonk »

photochemsyn wrote: post #50
anaganisk wrote: post #21

Contrary to popular belief, at least in my country (India). I feel bad for the citizens of Pakistan. There has not been a single stint of govt that has lasted peacefully since independence. A country can never grow without a peaceful transfer of power, and constant political imbalance will just not allow anything to advance. A shared history/culture with us and it's a shame our govts have differences. We fought toget…

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While imperial Britain has much to take blame for in South Asia, the partition is not really one of them.

Great Britain (or rather Mountbatten on its behalf) really just acted as a third party arbiter in the partition. It was Jinnah's insistence on a separate carveout for Muslims in South Asia, together with Nehru's refusal to meet any demands for federalism, that resulted in partition. Imperial Britain had nothing to do with Direct Action Day.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by photochemsyn »

ummonk wrote: post #55
photochemsyn wrote: post #50

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While imperial Britain has much to take blame for in South Asia, the partition is not really one of them. Great Britain (or rather Mountbatten on its behalf) really just acted as a third party arbiter in the partition. It was Jinnah's insistence on a separate carveout for Muslims in South Asia, together with Nehru's refusal to meet any demands for federalism, that resulted in partition. Imperial Britain had nothing t…

I think the argument is that for the previous 100 years, Imperial Britain had deliberately encouraged violent divisions between the Hindu and Muslim populations as a means of exerting external control, again this is called a 'divide and conquer' policy.

Your argument is sort of like saying, just because the British gave them the dynamite, they're not responsible for lighting the fuse.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by mlyle »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #35
mlyle wrote: post #31

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> Unless it was literally impossible to block internet access at all (some kind of unjammable starlink with undetectable receivers/transceivers?). Yah, these types of things would be hard to detect (just point an LNB at the southbound sky... no dish... cheap electronics...) What it's not is turnkey or filled with a good feed of information that people would want at baseline. There's no adoption model besides being a…

Starlink dishes are trivial to detect with even 1990s military technology when active. There's no way any satellite uplink can be hidden from a motivated adversary.

Yes, but we're not talking about Starlink. I'm talking about Othernet, which I mentioned above.

It is receive only-- not an uplink.

(I'm sure a tiny bit of RF leaks out of the LNB, but that could be mitigated as it is not designed for stealth).

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by TMWNN »

nickpeterson wrote: post #5

“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook” -Truman

Truman lived up to his words, too. After leaving the White House he and his wife had nothing except their existing property in Missouri. Their relative poverty is the reason why presidents get a pension.

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by alephnerd »

dingledork69 wrote: post #49
alephnerd wrote: post #41

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Hypothetically, if sideloading is allowed 1. How do you access said apps? There has to be some repository storing the apps. 2. Certain regions can straight up ban sideloading by only allowing pre-approved app stores (eg. Mainland China). Ofc there will be technical ways to bypass this, but you are limited by technical knowhow and internal intelligence agencies abilities to find those people. 3. You could make using c…

> How do you access said apps? Sent to you via bluetooth file sharing (an OS feature) by someone else who already has it. Or tor, vpn, etc.

How do you download a Tor client if every repository providing it is blocked by default?

What if Bluetooth File Sharing is disabled via a region lock? (Eg. China)

What if the only VPNs allowed are those that have prior approval from an Interior Ministry?

What if a country initiates Internet Whitelisting at the ISP level for "national security reasons" and requires every user to maintain access logs?

Re: Internet disrupted in Pakistan amid arrest of former PM Imran Khan

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Post by lannisterstark »

I love when authoritarian nations just block internet. India did it in Kashmir for a fuckton of time, and it was practically unusable for a longer period (2G speeds).

they also do it at even little bit of protests. How dare the citizens protest their own governments, no, no internet for you!

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The world will be a better place without these govts.

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