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Re: Second massive “blue hole” found, 270 metres deep

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Post by culi » Wed, May 10, 2023, 12:38 AM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #45

culi wrote: post #38

What is it with articles like these still using language like "discovered" > Guided by tips from fishermen, scientists from Colegio de le Frontera Sur explored a tropical estuary off the southeastern coast > the scientists names their new discovery the Taam ja' Blue Hole, using the Mayan language phrase Clearly the locals have known about this already. If your argument is that the difference is when it's published in…

>Discovered in 2021" pretty obviously means Western people here. If it was about "scientific description" then we would've said 2023. If the meaning is clear what seems to be the problem? It seems like manufactured outrage to be upset by this. I just discovered fuente avocados last week. I'm not claiming to be the first human to ever behold them. As a thought experiment, can a secret never be discovered? On the facts…

The meaning is not at all clear. The only definition consistent with this set of facts is "a Westerner found out about it". No paper was published in 2021

Re: Second massive “blue hole” found, 270 metres deep

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Post by s1artibartfast » Wed, May 10, 2023, 1:13 AM UTC

culi wrote: post #51

s1artibartfast wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Discovered in 2021" pretty obviously means Western people here. If it was about "scientific description" then we would've said 2023. If the meaning is clear what seems to be the problem? It seems like manufactured outrage to be upset by this. I just discovered fuente avocados last week. I'm not claiming to be the first human to ever behold them. As a thought experiment, can a secret never be discovered? On the facts…

The meaning is not at all clear. The only definition consistent with this set of facts is "a Westerner found out about it". No paper was published in 2021

The very first line is this:

"Scientists have released a study of their 2021 discovery of the world's second-deepest blue hole off the Mexican Yucatan Peninsula coast."

I wasn't the best at grammar, but I'm pretty sure the word "their" refers to the scientists, who found it in 2021.

Who did you think the article could have been talking about discovering it if you were so confused?

My guess is you knew exactly what it meant but were triggered and looking for something to be offended about.

To press the issue, how do you feel about Columbus discovering North America? Keep in mind no one has ever claimed that Columbus was the first human to lay foot in North America.

Re: Second massive “blue hole” found, 270 metres deep

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Post by culi » Thu, May 11, 2023, 4:27 AM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #52

culi wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The meaning is not at all clear. The only definition consistent with this set of facts is "a Westerner found out about it". No paper was published in 2021

The very first line is this: "Scientists have released a study of their 2021 discovery of the world's second-deepest blue hole off the Mexican Yucatan Peninsula coast." I wasn't the best at grammar, but I'm pretty sure the word "their" refers to the scientists, who found it in 2021. Who did you think the article could have been talking about discovering it if you were so confused? My guess is you knew exactly what it…

I'm finding it hard to believe you're not screwing with me now...

Is this a joke? Am I missing some kind of joke?

If not can you please link me the 2021 academic paper in which this was described.

Hint: it doesn't f*cking exist