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Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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You have no idea what site is it. Perhaps it's an interactive game or a questionnaire. POSTing that data to a server is much worse than running some clientside code. Your post is not productive at all.

> You’re right, JavaScript wouldn’t be necessary for my website. I agree that getting rid of it would increase accessibility.

Yeah, but you didn't know that when you wrote that comment.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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People just don't understand how valuable data is. For example, Sweden has a Facebook Market competitor that uses Facebook _and_ Google for analytics. Now we know for a fact that Amazon has in past used AWS to spy on b&m and e-commerce competitors, i dont belive for a minute that Meta would be any better.

Got a link for the Amazon/AWS spying?

3 hours have passed. I also did a healthly amount of googling various permutations of what they said and didn't find anything relevant so until anything new is revealed I guess we should consider this fiction.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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People just don't understand how valuable data is. For example, Sweden has a Facebook Market competitor that uses Facebook _and_ Google for analytics. Now we know for a fact that Amazon has in past used AWS to spy on b&m and e-commerce competitors, i dont belive for a minute that Meta would be any better.

Got a link for the Amazon/AWS spying?

Not OP but I did some searching and found an article citing this comment chain with throwaway accounts claiming to be former AWS employees doing it. I didn't bother reading all of the comments but I would assume it to be major news if it was actually true.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23929959

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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Got a link for the Amazon/AWS spying?

Not OP but I did some searching and found an article citing this comment chain with throwaway accounts claiming to be former AWS employees doing it. I didn't bother reading all of the comments but I would assume it to be major news if it was actually true. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23929959

kramerger said we "now know for a fact", though.

(good digging though!)

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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Got a link for the Amazon/AWS spying?

3 hours have passed. I also did a healthly amount of googling various permutations of what they said and didn't find anything relevant so until anything new is revealed I guess we should consider this fiction.

For what it's worth, I remember coming across this claim a couple years ago about AWS on HN. I don't think it's fiction, it's possible that their PR has scrubbed these allegations from the internet.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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3 hours have passed. I also did a healthly amount of googling various permutations of what they said and didn't find anything relevant so until anything new is revealed I guess we should consider this fiction.

For what it's worth, I remember coming across this claim a couple years ago about AWS on HN. I don't think it's fiction, it's possible that their PR has scrubbed these allegations from the internet.

Us nerds have long memories and archive important findings. Sorry, a vague memory doesn't really count.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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The only way to stop this from happening in the long term is to educate users that companies are spying on them, and tell them about the tools to prevent it. Depending on site owners and spyware companies, like Facebook, to solve the problem is super naive, and will never solve it. They directly benefit from these "leaks," and so they have no motivation to prevent them.

Rubbish. Legislation is used to protect vulnerable groups and health data. Strong reasonable legislation is hard to write, and expensive to enforce, but effective enforcement will cause changes to internet sites. Think GDPR. It is hard to manage cross-jurisdictional issues on the internet. In this case, Sweden could probably design good restrictions since it is a site local to Sweden? Trying to get everyone to become…

I was with you until you mentioned "GDPR" right after "effective enforcement". GDPR is, if anything, a great example of ineffective enforcement.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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Is it realistic or sensible to expect every internet user to become a security maven?

Is it realistic or sensible to expect every driver to know how to use their seatbelts?

What a ridiculous comparison. You can teach a small child how to operate a seatbelt.

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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Is it realistic or sensible to expect every driver to know how to use their seatbelts?

What a ridiculous comparison. You can teach a small child how to operate a seatbelt.

Sure, but can we teach grown men not to wring their hands about safety mechanisms for $SCARY_NEW_TECH at the same time they're becoming inevitable and culturally familiar?

Re: Sexual abuse tip-off site could be sharing data with Facebook

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What a ridiculous comparison. You can teach a small child how to operate a seatbelt.

Sure, but can we teach grown men not to wring their hands about safety mechanisms for $SCARY_NEW_TECH at the same time they're becoming inevitable and culturally familiar?

No need to be snide. Computer security is a lot harder to learn for most people because it's abstract and requires a degree of mental modeling that most consumers aren't equipped to perform. If it were as easy as you suggest businesses/ organizations would be invulnerable to phishing attacks, which they're obviously not. And entities like that have dedicated IT and HR staff to set up/train people, which consumers typically don't.
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