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A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Fun fact: You can reach it by bike from the east bay now, and it makes for a fun ride. Just be careful for side winds!

Fun fact: You still can't reach Treasure Island or Yerba Buena island by foot or bike from San Francisco. People living on TI are entirely dependent on Muni and private automobiles, and even then SFMTA tried to cut service to Treasure Island a few years back.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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I have the exact opposite experience -- as someone who always wants two adjoining rooms (for kids). Doing that in a hotel tends to cost as much as 3 times what an Airbnb would cost, and the airbnb is more comfortable. You just need to actually read reviews.

Well you have a very particular scenario, but in most cases, having to clean up everything, take the trash out, doing dishes, cleaning grill, taking linens out, collecting towels and starting the washer while still getting kicked out at 10? And paying hundreds for cleaning on top of that? You can’t enjoy the last day and you’re paying for it.

Been there, not even sure how it's legal to charge a (usually quite substantial) cleaning fee while having the guest do 1/2 the work.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Very interesting. The concept has been soundly rejected in the US. Except for San Francisco. How’s that working out?

I think NYC is king of sunlight regulation https://www.nyc.gov/assets/oec/technical-manual/08_Shadows_2...

I mean actually read it. It basically says shadows don’t really matter much and you barely need to worry about them and then goes on to spell out in very clear detail what happens when they do matter so there don’t have to be moronic lawsuits every time someone wants to build a low rise apartment building.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Cars really should be put underground. Electric cars going in tunnels, not gasoline cars spewing the exhaust from the top of the bridge. … The mansion’s bright white siding is turning dull and black from car exhaust. …

Why tunnels tho? Or rather, why single occupancy vehicles in tunnels? It just feels like a public transit system with extra steps…

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

#55

FTA, $500 per day to rent an historic mansion overlooking the bay (i.e. before the bridge obstruction) I have a family wedding to attend back east this autumn and we're looking at around that (before "service fees" and taxes) to sleep 5 out in the sticks of New Hampshire -- short-term housing has truly gotten out of hand, basically everywhere.

New Hampshirite here: Wherever you're trying to stay, it sounds like you're doing it wrong...

Unless you're trying to be in, like, Lancaster during PorcFest or something.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the exact opposite experience -- as someone who always wants two adjoining rooms (for kids). Doing that in a hotel tends to cost as much as 3 times what an Airbnb would cost, and the airbnb is more comfortable. You just need to actually read reviews.

Well you have a very particular scenario, but in most cases, having to clean up everything, take the trash out, doing dishes, cleaning grill, taking linens out, collecting towels and starting the washer while still getting kicked out at 10? And paying hundreds for cleaning on top of that? You can’t enjoy the last day and you’re paying for it.

I must be staying in very different airbnbs than you. I have never had to do any of that. But I only stay with Superhosts and only 4.8 or higher.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think NYC is king of sunlight regulation https://www.nyc.gov/assets/oec/technical-manual/08_Shadows_2...

I mean actually read it. It basically says shadows don’t really matter much and you barely need to worry about them and then goes on to spell out in very clear detail what happens when they do matter so there don’t have to be moronic lawsuits every time someone wants to build a low rise apartment building.

I'm not sure I understand - https://sfplanning.org/resource/shadow-analysis-procedures-a...

40 feet, times of year, 20% shadow. make a model. At the surface level, they look similar to me. NYC has been doing that for a whole lot longer, I wouldn't doubt their planning department has a more refined process. But it's not like SF is alone in this kind of regulation.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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It's hard to imagine that sentimental navy brass can gum up a critical roadway for over a decade -- contributing to the many-billion-dollar increase in bridge cost from the original plan.

The interplay between civilian control of the military and the military putting bases or jobs in every congressional district is dicey.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean actually read it. It basically says shadows don’t really matter much and you barely need to worry about them and then goes on to spell out in very clear detail what happens when they do matter so there don’t have to be moronic lawsuits every time someone wants to build a low rise apartment building.

I'm not sure I understand - https://sfplanning.org/resource/shadow-analysis-procedures-a... 40 feet, times of year, 20% shadow. make a model. At the surface level, they look similar to me. NYC has been doing that for a whole lot longer, I wouldn't doubt their planning department has a more refined process. But it's not like SF is alone in this kind of regulation.

My understanding is that NYC

* has smaller time requirements for sunlight; the planning requirements state that an area should have 4-6 hours of sunlight a day, whereas SF looks at if it gets any worse over any time period

* NYC only protects specific kinds of park uses for sunlight, so like sunlight is not material for a basketball court, for example.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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post #55

FTA, $500 per day to rent an historic mansion overlooking the bay (i.e. before the bridge obstruction) I have a family wedding to attend back east this autumn and we're looking at around that (before "service fees" and taxes) to sleep 5 out in the sticks of New Hampshire -- short-term housing has truly gotten out of hand, basically everywhere.

New Hampshirite here: Wherever you're trying to stay, it sounds like you're doing it wrong... Unless you're trying to be in, like, Lancaster during PorcFest or something.

Funny I had never heard about PorcFest until just now and drove by Roger's Campground less than an hour ago.
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