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Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by hackbert »

doctoboggan wrote: post #31
hombre_fatal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bots seem to be seasonal creatures. Some months you won't see any. And then some months you'll see four per submission. I'd just downvote and reconvene when it seems to be a substantial issue. As for GPT, the bots you usually see on HN are just as easily written by humans. GPT makes sense for scale, but it's not very interesting when bots are posting at such low volume, so it doesn't necessarily have to be the case n…

I see 4 dead comments, but I suspect one of them is from a real human (derjanni)

I’ve seen a lot of new users today that were rage silenced, including obviously human ones.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by Baeocystin »

cubefox wrote: post #46
LegitShady wrote: post #14

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unfortunately this is the future of the entire internet - and not just the comments the submissions as well. the search for authenticity and actual human material will become the most valuable thing. This isn't that different from what we have now as people have abandoned corporate messaging for communities and podcasts/youtube/etc to try to find authentic human voices. The difference will be how much harder it will…

I actually think some major commercial use cases of the OpenAI API are a) fake reviews on Amazon etc and b) SEO spam.

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+%22as+an+a...

It's already starting, humorously at least for now.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by dvt »

gweinberg wrote: post #42
dvt wrote: post #7

Awesome discovery, and I absolutely love this alliteration: > planet’s pantheon of pollinators

Yeah, except it really isn't a pantheon. "Pandemonium" might work better.

I think we can stretch the meaning here; after all, a pantheon is a group of important people, and pollinating seems like an important job :) I think pandemonium usually has a negative connotation, but it's also good.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by cubefox »

pvaldes wrote: post #26
samstave wrote: post #15

just curious, how do underwater plants pollinate in general, while Ive never thought about it - I guess it would be currents?

Most underwater "plants" are algae, too primitive to produce flowers. Their life cycles are complicated and the fecundation happens in special short lived individuals called gametophytes that are generated from spores and produce gametes that fuse into other spores. They don't produce pollen, so can't be pollinated. To speak crudely, pollen is like a vase that hosts inside a crew of "spermatozoan like" gametes and th…

I couldn't find any evidence of Posidonia using crustaceans for pollination, so it seems they just use the sea current, similar to wind pollination over water. However, underwater animal pollination does exist in some seagrasses, namely by help of marine worms:

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1130235892

Another bit about Posidonia:

> The Posidonia herbarium has a very high life expectancy. According to some scientists, this species can live several centuries. Some specimens aged over 80,000 years have been found in the Balearic Islands.

https://www.spotmydive.com/en/ecology/posidonia-oceanica-mar...

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by cubefox »

samstave wrote: post #21
tomrod wrote: post #17

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PBS Eons has a few related videos iirc

But do they pollinate through their roots? because - then a whole realm of hydroponic polination for anything that can be pollinated through a root, would be really interesting. Think of real Wasabi - which thrives in very shallow, consistently flowing steams... -- Nevermind, I find the answers... Wasabi, still uses flowering insect polination in the wild, but is farmed via vegatative cloning. Seaweed is really inter…

Note that seaweeds are algues, not (flowering) plants. These are called seagrasses.

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Post by whimsicalism »

doctoboggan wrote: post #31
hombre_fatal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bots seem to be seasonal creatures. Some months you won't see any. And then some months you'll see four per submission. I'd just downvote and reconvene when it seems to be a substantial issue. As for GPT, the bots you usually see on HN are just as easily written by humans. GPT makes sense for scale, but it's not very interesting when bots are posting at such low volume, so it doesn't necessarily have to be the case n…

I see 4 dead comments, but I suspect one of them is from a real human (derjanni)

Looking at their history I think they are related to the bots as they have a suspicious number of threads where the bots also chime in.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by LegitShady »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #50
cubefox wrote: post #46

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I actually think some major commercial use cases of the OpenAI API are a) fake reviews on Amazon etc and b) SEO spam.

Without naming names - the other day, I sat on a presentation related to a commercial offering of some SOTA LLM APIs; there was a slide listing a dozen use cases claimed to have been piloted or already tested. I distinctly remember being a bit disgusted by how all, excepting one or two, were highly morally questionable, as they boiled down to improving or scaling all the usual ugly kinds of marketing and marketing-re…

This will be on of thousands of similar meetings going on for many many companies.

Re: Brazilian frog might be the first pollinating amphibian known to science

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Post by selimthegrim »

dvt wrote: post #54
gweinberg wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, except it really isn't a pantheon. "Pandemonium" might work better.

I think we can stretch the meaning here; after all, a pantheon is a group of important people, and pollinating seems like an important job :) I think pandemonium usually has a negative connotation, but it's also good.

I believe their point is that pandemonium can be a collective noun too
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