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Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

Why does it make you nervous?

because 99.999% of cryptocurrency projects are scams

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

> Why the hype? Jack Dorsey is a co-founder, that's it. I feel like "nostr.com" has been showing up on the HN front page, with no context, at least once every week.

Jack is not a cofounder. Nostr.com is owned by a random user (not sure who, but can probably figure it out). Nostr was created on 2020 by an anon developer named fiatjaf. Jack made grants to nostr devs in 2022 (among other FOSS projects) after he first discovered it. He has no part in the development of the protocol other than the grants, although he is an active user.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

Spam control = relay configuration Moderation = client side moderation features, most allow muting and blur images from unknown accounts prior to opening. If you don’t like the way a client moderates, move to another Anonymity = not sure how it’s not anonymous. There’s no sign up, no email, no password. It’s just keypairs being generated. Use a vpn.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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There's little spam at the moment. There will be. But at that time the relays (pieces of server software that relay nostr messages) can step in and implement spam control via whatever they see fit. Perhaps some smart filtering, perhaps pay a few sats to have a message relayed or perhaps some real name policy. Clients can pick a (set of) relay(s) which fit their preference best. Or not, and accept the default. The pro…

Could you expand on how relays differ (mostly conceptually) from something like Mastodon instances? Adding because Nostr seems to be marketed as something more decentralized than that, and I'd like to get a deeper understanding.

My understanding is the relays don't actually... relay, like mastodon instances do.

With mastodon your client only talks to one "instance" to see all the "instances" that "instance" is federated with.

With Nostr your client connects to every "relay" you want to see content from, there isn't really any communication between "relays".

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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On the last HN thread about Nostr I've mentioned Bluesky, and talked about its qualities, including the separation of various duties, like the feed, moderation, storage, etc. into different entities that can be pluggable. Since that I got an invite (thank you, Sam!) and I'm even more bullish now (though I'm not much of a social media poster myself). Compared to Nostr it seems like there's a first-party "base" app tha…

Bluesky doesn't even have federation and/or decentralisation yet, so they aren't really comparable.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

If you don't like Bitcoin, you could always just get an address and if you get tipped, sell immediately. I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. Some games like Entropia[0] have a fixed exchange rate with the dollar, allowing you to "cash out" of the game, if holding game currency isn't your thing. It's just game currency essentially for the social app. W…

No one is claiming that "gems" are "the native currency of the internet" though.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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> Nostr is a discovery powerhouse that enables content to be easily discovered across platforms without gatekeeping. For creators this is great news because they can just publish in one place and be in all (willingly) participating clients/apps. Beyond the marketing barf, what makes this a "discovery powerhouse"? From the description, it doesn't sound any different from Mastodon, or having an email newsletter, or pub…

Network effects. Every new app that joins grows the network without the content creator having to do anything new.

like mastodon? from my mastodon account I can interact with pixelfed (like Instagram), peertube (like YouTube) and Lemmy (like reddit).
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