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Results of Joel Spolsky's "What Programmers Want" Survey

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Re: Results of Joel Spolsky's "What Programmers Want" Survey

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It's somewhat unfortunate that there's no breakdown between the different levels of experience. That is to say, those with 12+ years of experience probably have very different views of what is important to them in a workplace than those with 1-2 years of experience. The data for the survey should allow us see this breakdown, right?

I would not make that assumption.

I held a survey for the Austin design community last year, and the things people with 10+ years of experience wanted to learn and felt were missing in the workplaces was not statistically significantly different from everyone else.

Surprised us.

Re: Results of Joel Spolsky's "What Programmers Want" Survey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder...is it a complete lack of interest, or is it, "I'm not interested in the tiny amount of equity/sharing I typically get offered?"

The latter leads to the former. Everyone starts out young and enthusiastic and thinking that they can build something cool that will make everyone rich. Young, clever guys do what they think is the hard work: designing and building a cool product. They think that they are sharing their talent with some lucky money guys and everyone will benefit. Sadly, they learn that they were giving their talent to the money guys a…

Do you ever ask for salary/bonuses/other "real value" up front instead of options, and if so, does it get you anywhere?
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