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Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by emacdona »

nl wrote: post #50
emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> To watch every UCI race This is a good example of the situation in many sports. The UCI is a governing body, not an event organiser or promoter. Basically anyone can put on race, and they are responsible for making money out of it. So event promoters make their own deals with broadcasters.

Thanks for pointing that out -- I guess I should have realized that (maybe I did at one point). At the very least, then, I wish the UCI would make it EASY to figure out what services I needed to subscribe to in my country to watch which races. Just a page on their website with a big table would be great.

Figuring out that I need to subscribe to GCN+, Peacock, and Flobikes in the US was no small feat (and it changes from year to year!).

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by taneq »

pdntspa wrote: post #28
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a common polycule meme where every new member pays for a different digital media subscription service and it's shared between everyone. If you get together with a few friends it's possible to split the costs of all these services. If you're sufficiently tech savvy, each person can run a VPN from their home so it doesn't look suspicious from the streaming service's end. Here's a video showing how to do this wi…

> Community-based media sharing is great. I wish it was possible for me to lend all of my Steam games when I'm not using them. You can do that, actually. It has some pretty big caveats, but if you are not actively playing anything on Steam then your library can be lent out to others... all you have to do is sign into their computer using your Steam credentials.

You can also just share your library with another account.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by cjbprime »

peruvian wrote: post #43
esharte wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you lived in the UK, supported Tottenham and wanted to watch all their games in the 2021/22 season you had to: Subscribe to Sky Sports (around £50-60 a month) for the Premier League games. Subscribe to BT Sports (30 a month) for the Saturday early kick off Premier League games and the Europa Conference League games. Subscribe to Amazon Prime for the 3 random weeks when they are showing the Premier League games ins…

There are cheaper ways to hurt yourself than trying to watch Spurs.

Me: While this is amusing, come on, they're sixth in the Premier League, this is not in any way what a masochistic relationship with a sports team looks like.

Also me, Googling:

> Tottenham Hotspur's performance against Newcastle United on Sunday was so poor that the club is going to refund those that came out and showed support for the team.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by probablynish »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #47
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a common polycule meme where every new member pays for a different digital media subscription service and it's shared between everyone. If you get together with a few friends it's possible to split the costs of all these services. If you're sufficiently tech savvy, each person can run a VPN from their home so it doesn't look suspicious from the streaming service's end. Here's a video showing how to do this wi…

I have no interest in doing all that work to share. I do have an interest in paying hundreds of dollars to guarantee access to any game, any time, any place I want, but apparently that is not a product they want to sell. For example, I would pay $200+ to watch Tennis Opens, but I need it to be a simple transaction and 1 click to watch the game from the schedule page on the tennis association website.

Tennis is better than most sports with the glaring exception of watching the grand slams (which are the 4 biggest tournaments!). Otherwise TennisTV does a pretty good job of letting you watch all other tournaments live/on-demand. So, not as good as the F1, but sounds better than the EPL, NHL, etc.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by probablynish »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #13
emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

> THE ONLY sports governing body that has figured this out (for sports I like, anyway), is F1. No. The only ones who figured it out is the NFL. F1 shafted Germany after youg Schuhmacher came into F1 and German Sky bought exclusive rights. The NFL? Intl Game Pass €190 per season live streams, instant repeats no adverts, various show, dedicated tv apps, no limit on number of devices, high def.

I think this is country specific. F1's service in the US is great, but the NFL international game pass isn't available to people who live in the US, it's not as easy to watch domestically.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by karlshea »

mobilio wrote: post #48
esharte wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you lived in the UK, supported Tottenham and wanted to watch all their games in the 2021/22 season you had to: Subscribe to Sky Sports (around £50-60 a month) for the Premier League games. Subscribe to BT Sports (30 a month) for the Saturday early kick off Premier League games and the Europa Conference League games. Subscribe to Amazon Prime for the 3 random weeks when they are showing the Premier League games ins…

Coming soon - Apple TV! They also bidding for Premier League...

MLS Season Pass on Apple TV has been great. Way better content, way better stream quality, and no blackouts. Such a better experience than the hodgepodge of OTA TV, ESPN, ESPN+, FS1, RSNs etc that it has been in previous seasons.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by wmf »

jojobas wrote: post #57

If it's ever broadcast on normal, free-to-watch TV, anywhere in the world, it's fair game in my book to record/restream it. Change my mind.

I'm not trying to change your mind, but "free" TV is paid for by commercials and those commercials are local. If, for example, the whole world watches a pirated Brazilian stream with Brazilian commercials then the Brazilian advertisers have to pay for the whole event. The current system where the event is licensed to local broadcasters in each country shares the cost more evenly and fairly.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by lawgimenez »

emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

As someone who's in Asia who loves to watch baseball, it is so hard to subscribe to live stream. I have no choice but to resort to illegal streams. MLB.tv outside the US will cost me $24.99 per month. What the fuck. The only option I have right now is Apple TV+ which has Friday Nights Baseball live, thank you Apple.
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