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Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#51
Don't know about US, but I don't think anyone can actually force you to come to work after youve given notice. The most they can do in UK is not pay you for the notice period. And since the only reference they can later give you is "they worked here", working through your notice period is kinda optional.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#52
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really depends on the worker, in my experience, and their approach to the situation. I had one person who gave a full year's notice, so that we could hire, train, and integrate the new worker before she left. It was glorious and resulted in zero down time. I have had another who gave one month's notice, and spent the entire time being toxic. Digging out from under that took the better part of three years. The over…

>I had one person who gave a full year's notice I don't understand how anyone could do this with exception of retirement. Who will hire you with one year long advance?

> Who will hire you with one year long advance?

They probably hired them ahead of time and had both working for a time. It can also take a long time to find someone.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#53

I’ve quit all jobs with 1-2 months notice and can wholeheartedly agree with the author’s narrative. I am still on good terms with my ex-managers and colleagues. There’s another plus to this: when your ex-manager moves to another company and starts hiring there, they’d likely want you again. On the vacation before your last day bit: labor law in most places dictates that employers must reimburse you for any unused vac…

One time I even got offered a “bonus” for staying on longer than the notice period. I got to focus on the things that excited me and piece were generally nice. Another time they threw me an expensive send-off - I saw the CEO sign a $800 bill for the ~6/7 of us (a decade ago when the world wasn’t so expensive). Goes to prove the author’s point about this being a win-win.

Of course - you probably shouldn’t do this if your boss is a dick and your mental health is at stake. Give this courtesy to those you can see yourself reaching out to in times of need.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#54

This is terrible advice, the company will never give you a heads up if they are going to fire you. Do what's best for you. Keeping a good relationship with your current employer comes second.

The article is precisely about how the extended notice period is good for the employee, not the employer.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#55
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really depends on the worker, in my experience, and their approach to the situation. I had one person who gave a full year's notice, so that we could hire, train, and integrate the new worker before she left. It was glorious and resulted in zero down time. I have had another who gave one month's notice, and spent the entire time being toxic. Digging out from under that took the better part of three years. The over…

>I had one person who gave a full year's notice I don't understand how anyone could do this with exception of retirement. Who will hire you with one year long advance?

She was quitting because she was going to be a stay at home mother.

We hired the replacement and they worked side by side for ~ 10 months. It was amazing.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#56
post #43
post #7

I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…

Like most things, it depends. I've given employers no time up to 4 weeks. Smaller ones will definitely receive more grace if they have been good to me. And, when I was an employer I tried to do the same for others. Another note is that I'm always succession planning. Document, share what I'm doing, etc... I learned early on that if I couldn't be replaced, I also couldn't be promoted.

not a lot of companies seem to recognize this pattern and encourage it.

benefit from it, sure.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#57

LOL, I tried that at Apple, was immediately made to pack my stuff after watch of a security guard and escorted off premises. As if I couldn't copy their stuff first and give notice later if that was my intent. Now obviously, in a mom and pop shop, I would discuss my desire to leave before I even started looking and help find/train my replacement, while they would likewise help me find a new job that better fits my li…

This is a strong point: context matters.

I signaled I was on the way out for quite a while ahead of putting in two weeks, and it was abundantly clear they'd take me back quite readily.

But that situation doesn't generalize.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#58

Nope. If you give a lot of notice before quitting "permanent employment" they will walk you out immediately. It's OK to give a few hints you will not renew a contract as long as you are clear that you still like them and plan to be friends.

Some firms will walk you out immediately, but many won’t. Hopefully you know which kind you are working for.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

#59
The posted article presents a naive point of view.

In tech, it's very common for those who resign to be walked out of the building immediately.

In corporate America, the idea that you'd give THEM more notice than they'd give YOU in the event of layoffs is one-sided.

By all means, plan your exit carefully. Ensure your own security. If it's an amiable parting, try not to leave them in a lurch. But all of that is you being nice, not something you have to do. If, as is often the case, you're leaving because you're very unhappy with your situation, there's no point in prolonging it. Go.

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