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Would you say Yahoo is a sinking ship? Yahoo owns Flickr.
Yes, Yahoo! does appear to be a sinking ship, by all accounts.
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#52I think you might be violating some trademarks with that name...
I'm actually curious if this is a violation. Does anyone know? The font is definitely different and the F is even capitalized on the boat graphic, though the colors are the same and the name "flickr" is in there. It makes me think of those cereal brands that try to make you think they're the popular brand by dancing as closely as trademark law lets them.
Back in the day I was the first person to create a service using the Flickr API, so that the Flickr folks could show off their API when they launched. I called my demo app reviewr.com [1]
My original choice of colour scheme was (deliberately) very close to what Flickr was using at the time, and Stewart Butterfield (who ran the show back then) asked me to change the colours a bit.
I don't recall Stewart having a problem with me dropping a vowel in the domain name, even though at the time this was a novel domain hack on the part of Flickr.
[1] http://web.archive.org/web/20040406000559/http://reviewr.com...
Re: Snapjoy (YC S11) unveils Flickraft, one-click migration for Flickr users
#53At least Flickr has an API if you want to pull your data out.
Snapjoy doesnt :)
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#54This is not unprecedented. We did this years ago with Zooomr. There was a tech crunch post about it: http://techcrunch.com/2006/06/16/why-is-flickr-afraid-of-zoo... Many Flickr users were not happy when they discovered that the ability to migrate their accounts was considered "burn[ing] bandwidth and CPU cycles." My co-founder, Kris, was quoted with the following: > Tate from Zooomr says that the exports are a cost o…
Snapjoy doesn't give people freedom, it just takes over from Flickr.
Flickr gives people more freedom, by letting users download their files.
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#56Does Snapjoy work well with photo organization apps like Aperture?
I've hit the 100GB limit on Dropbox, and I'd like to be able to view albums on the web.
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#57Snapfish, DropBox, and several of the other large photo / filing sharing sites are essentially a UI for Amazon's S3 cloud. I pay for dropbox primarily to store family photos & videos. In fact the stuff I need to back-up that fits outside that category would fit in a free, or lower priced dropbox plan. I would switch based on price alone since photos are fairly static, non-changing, and the #1 concern is that they sur…
Snapfish and all other photo sharing sites lack one fundamental thing that any photo enthusiast will identify immediately as one of the biggest problems.
Image de-duplication.
Snapjoy has the only image de-duplicating algorithm that I've seen that really works.
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#58[disclaimer: see my profile for my involvement with Yahoo, I have no connection with this particular incident/Flickr/etc]
This and the TC post annoy me because Snapjoy (or perhaps the tech press) is trying to spin this into some underdog vs evil big company story when it isn't.
For example, when Snapjoy says "We tried our best to stay within Flickr’s API limits, but the overwhelmingly positive response has exceeded our expectations.", what they are really saying is that they didn't implement rate limiting correctly.
And when they say "We’re a bit surprised that the key was disabled almost immediately after we reached the limit.", what they're saying is that Flickr actually did implement said limiting correctly (don't have personal knowledge, assume that's what happened).
I also like the spin from the tech press on this somehow meaning that your photos are locked into Flickr when Snapjoy has neither an API or any other mechanism to get photos out - all I see is a promise of a future feature to sync to Dropbox/S3.
I completely understand the PR game being played here but I wish it needn't be this way. Especially since Snapjoy seems to be a very slick product from a very talented team.
And all this ignoring the issues with the name - I'm not sure how it is ok to use a derivative of your competitor's name to build something designed to take users away from them.
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Yeah, I have to agree on both points. I feel like I missed a memo about Flickr going down. AFAIK Flickr isn't even leaking, never-mind sinking... Am I wrong? Have I missed something? And API is one of the things that makes Flickr great, Snapjoy may have a sweet web interface but that's not enough. I'm guessing from the fact that they have a GitHub account that they'll release an API when the code has settled down a b…
Having been around conversations with some of the old Flickr people, I have to disagree. It's definitely sinking, and has been slowly gutted over the past few years. This is only the most recent piece of news: http://nolancaudill.com/2012/01/30/the-front-line/ All of the core Flickr people have left, and some (like Aaron Straup Cope) are starting to build their own: http://straup.github.com/parallel-flickr/ http://ww…
Nolan, here: the guy that wrote the post about the recent layoffs.
As stated in the post, I honestly believe that Flickr-the-site, in the long run, will be fine. Do these layoffs hurt? Of course! But Flickr has had bigger bumps in the past and has pushed through them all. The engineers there are an incredible crew of guys and Markus's post at the first of the year on blog.flickr.net shows that they've got some exciting stuff on the way.
I also have been (in a small way) helping Aaron with parallel-flickr and I think he as much as anyone would say that he's not building a replacement Flickr but more of being a good archivist and leaving nothing important up to chance, even if the odds are 1-in-some-big-number of Something Bad happening.
Obviously, I don't know the whims of major corporations like Yahoo, but Flickr-the-site, which is its content and its devotion to preserve that content, hasn't wavered in how it treats your data.
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Having been around conversations with some of the old Flickr people, I have to disagree. It's definitely sinking, and has been slowly gutted over the past few years. This is only the most recent piece of news: http://nolancaudill.com/2012/01/30/the-front-line/ All of the core Flickr people have left, and some (like Aaron Straup Cope) are starting to build their own: http://straup.github.com/parallel-flickr/ http://ww…
Okay so they have cut a few jobs and Yahoo! haven't done much to the site in 1-2 years. But why does that mean its sinking? The site still works great, still has loads of features, making it great to use. The pricing is brilliant for what you can get out of them (I only have around 3k on there). Plus their API is brilliant. Until they start doing stuff that will effect how I use the service I wont be switching, I'd l…
Lack of any product and engineering development on it is a clear warning sign that Yahoo is liable to cut the site. If it made them money, they'd put more work into it. If it's only making middling amounts of money, and they're not putting work into it, then they likely don't see growth potential and see it more as a burden than anything.