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Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#51

I just got an email about this and here’s what they say: > Your plan is unaffected and you can continue to use the Personal Pro plan as you normally do. However, Tailscale's new Free plan includes nearly everything that Tailscale has to offer for up to 3 users on a custom domain and 100 devices. This plan may be more aligned with how you use Tailscale. Go to the Billing page in the admin console to review your option…

I’d just keep paying them just for sending this mail. Kudos!

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

> Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. Can you elaborate? What do your parents need tailscale for? I mean my parents have internet purely by the telco dropping a router at their place and it just works, what is my family missing?

Mostly standard VPN use cases. They can access my Plex server, Mealie instance and in turn I can remote access their devices without something like TeamViewer when they need IT Support or their home automation stuff is acting up.

Would their lives fall apart without it? No. But it makes my life as the family SRE much easier.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#53
post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

What is it that Tailscale provides over plain vanilla wireguard? Is it a static address somewhere to connect to?

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#54
post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

Plex provides remote access without needing any additional services. Just enable it in the settings and you can access your library anywhere when you log in to plex.tv.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

> Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. Can you elaborate? What do your parents need tailscale for? I mean my parents have internet purely by the telco dropping a router at their place and it just works, what is my family missing?

In my case that's actually multiple functions: remote login without using TeamViewer and also for general remote support, and I have a small backup server at the place for my off-site backups.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR Headscale is great, and we love it. Full details here: https://tailscale.com/blog/opensource/

> Instead, we hope that by being transparent about our security practices and helping ensure that Headscale remains compatible with Tailscale, you will either use Tailscale, or host Headscale for your own personal needs. You love Headscale for personal use? What would you say to someone looking at Headscale for their business over Tailscale?

Rock on!

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#57
post #13

I see a lot of love for Tailscale, but I'm curious what people use Tailscale for? Is it mostly to access services running on an internal network? Do you use it for work or for fun? The use case I can see is streaming from my personal Plex server from anywhere outside my home, but maybe I'm not thinking big enough.

I have a NAS in my home, and my parents have a NAS in theirs. Everything is on Tailscale and I can SSH into either machine whenever I need. I've needed to do this a few times when I am on the road, but more commonly when I use Tailscale when I do a little remote tech support for my parents.

It took minutes to set up - dead easy.

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#58
post #4

TL;DR - Free plan (previously called personal) now let’s you have up to 3 team members - 100 devices - Monthly paid plan also now includes 3 free users - Additional users are PAYG Very refreshing to see a company give more free stuff after adjusting their plans. Usually you see the opposite.

TailScale is still small. They probably identified that their pricing plan was preventing them from user acquisition and/or they are having pressure from competition and thus are trying to flood the market to become the de facto solution. It’s a pretty common play for a smaller startup. They just broke the 1B valuation last year. Could be the board pushing the executive team to grow the number of users because happy…

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Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#59
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

What is it that Tailscale provides over plain vanilla wireguard? Is it a static address somewhere to connect to?

- Key distribution - DNS for your nodes - IP addressing - SSO integration

and so much more

Re: Changes to Tailscale Pricing and Plans

#60
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Entire site-to-site tunneling/routing. I didn't have to do anything for my parents I just dropped a subnet router at their place. - Access my services/servers at home from anywhere in the world. Friendly mobile apps as well that allow the same. - In cloud environments (for work and fun), don't even bother provisioning public IPs and having to deal with those firewall rules, just use Tailscale - https://tailscale.co…

What is it that Tailscale provides over plain vanilla wireguard? Is it a static address somewhere to connect to?

It provides a consistent IP address (in the CGNAT range) that the end-device is always reachable at. On top of that you can use MagicDNS or regular DNS records to refer to it.

That IP is usable regardless of how that device and your device actually reach the internet. Further, no one device acts as a “server” and needs a stable public IP thanks to NAT traversal and the DERP fallback path. Keys are handled automatically with an option to not trust Tailscale infra in doing that (Tailscale lock) and I just need to auth devices with my Google Workspace/Gsuite SSO.

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