Free Dolly: First truly open instruction-tuned LLM
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Re: Free Dolly: First truly open instruction-tuned LLM
#52But I love the thought here. I didn't realize the instruction tuning for GPT was from only 40 people. It really does bring into perspective how easily a motivated large organization could bring their employees to bear to do something like this, and I'm grateful that DataBricks has done it and is sharing it here.
I wish I understood how LLMs work a little better. This is a neat piece of the puzzle I wasn't fully aware of. But now my mental model is that LLMs work with kind of "three layers" of inputs:
* The base many-billion or even trillion parameter model, trained on a huge corpus of text, which basically is how it learns to use language as I/O.
* The instruction tuning, on just tens of thousands of inputs, to give the raw model some further guidance. This is a sort of transfer learning, maybe? Doing further training on top of a big model?
* The prompt itself can provide further inputs and context to tweak how the response should look.
I had been thinking of LLMs in terms of the first layer, the base model, and the bottom layer the prompt, and was thinking that you could get progressively more sophisticated in the prompt "context" to have LLMs tailor made for your particular use case.
But actually, there's a decent chunk of space to explore on the instruction tuning? Like, say you wanted an LLM to help lawyers with case law or something, to keep it from hallucinating quite as much and being more detailed and useful. Is that something that would fit in the middle layer? Could a "legal AI startup" tackle that problem by starting with a big open source base model, proprietarily tuning it with 10s of thousands of legal questions and answers, and then sharing that model with law firms, with maybe a customer support rep at the firm able to do the final tweaking with the prompt context? Is that how this all fits together?
The examples here of digesting DataBricks info and customer support tickets I found really interesting. How exactly would large companies like DB tailor LLMs to their particular use cases and data?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't expect so, but as LLMs get better more people want to use them in more places. An openly available LLM for commercial use which is easy to integrate in your existing databricks flow could be very tempting. That then leads to increased use of the platform & hours spent computing, so that's better for them. It also shows how to build and train these things on databricks, so maybe more people will use them to ma…
My hunch is that OpenAI's window of supremacy will be short. Even if they keep being SOTA, the open sourced models will eat away market underneath them. By the next year they will only be able to sell GPT-4 or 5. At some point the open models will be good enough for 99% of use cases.
If they're selling gpt-5 and let me pay for LLaMa or whatever is also out then I'll just use them unless pricing is wildly different.
Re: Free Dolly: First truly open instruction-tuned LLM
#56Shame that this is flagged, I think this is a really exciting development and was hoping to see the discussion around it. Open sourcing the fine tuning training set is a great building block. Will be exciting to see if others continue to build on this. More open source datasets, models, and evaluation frameworks will accelerate the development and adoption of LLMs. It adds more hackers to the mix building the core, r…
I was hoping to see good discussion around too. And it would have happened had Data bricks employees or PR people didn't create a hundred accounts to comment on this and the previous DOLLY post.
Re: Free Dolly: First truly open instruction-tuned LLM
#57Shame that this is flagged, I think this is a really exciting development and was hoping to see the discussion around it. Open sourcing the fine tuning training set is a great building block. Will be exciting to see if others continue to build on this. More open source datasets, models, and evaluation frameworks will accelerate the development and adoption of LLMs. It adds more hackers to the mix building the core, r…
The post was rightfully flagged while trying to make it's way to the frontpage of HN with blatant astroturfing. I was hoping to see good discussion around too. And it would have happened had Data bricks employees or PR people didn't create a hundred accounts to comment on this and the previous DOLLY post.
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#58The only other one I've seen that's actually open source OpenAssistant, also based on the pythia models I believe.
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#59From https://huggingface.co/databricks/dolly-v2-12b#benchmark-met..., it seems like dolly-v2-12b's benchmark results are actually slightly worse than dolly-v1-6b.
A commercially viable instruction-tuned LLM is still a huge deal.
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#60Interesting to see that it's trained on data completely generated by Databricks employees. I wonder how "biased" that makes the data, and how much they spent in terms of lost man hours?
All datasets are biased, including this specific one. However, we believe it's still very valuable to open source, for a few reasons:
- This dataset is primarily used to train instruction reasoning, not for knowledge. (Keep in mind Dolly and any of the well known models have not been specifically trained for knowledge. They are all just demonstrating instruction reasoning.) The lack of a true open source (available for both research and commercial use) instruction dataset is the primary blocker for making these LLMs available for commercial use.
- We hope this will lead to not just open source innovations in models, but also future training datasets.
- Given the international population of our employee based, it's likely more diverse than datasets created by a small number of human labelers. And it is easier to identify, discuss, and debate dataset bias in the open.