If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. What if there was a cheeseburger that was 50% as good as McDonalds but was only a nickel? That'd be real bad for the McD's share price.
It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
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Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#52For coding I've been using it as an assistant, not a replacement. I don't see why writers couldn't do the same, and be more cost effective and produce higher quality output than either alone.
They could. Just don't expect the same pay when the assistant is performing a big chunk of the work. Same goes for engineers. Just wait.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#53For coding I've been using it as an assistant, not a replacement. I don't see why writers couldn't do the same, and be more cost effective and produce higher quality output than either alone.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#54If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. What if there was a cheeseburger that was 50% as good as McDonalds but was only a nickel? That'd be real bad for the McD's share price.
Not all errors are equal.
Sometimes 99% as good isn't even close to good enough.
But, yes, for most things 60% for 1/100th the price, is going to cut it.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#55For coding I've been using it as an assistant, not a replacement. I don't see why writers couldn't do the same, and be more cost effective and produce higher quality output than either alone.
The only move would be to convert to a volume play and leverage the automation. Maybe that helps, maybe it doesn't; unlike a lot of historical automation to do with making physical widgets, where you might be able to arbitrage as a merchant, or set up your own shop to compete, the scaling factors here are much different, and much more in favor of the owners of the Capital, over anyone trying to run the middleman game.
You've got the the choice, for now. The situations are very different.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#56I don't mind anecdotes but the implication in the title here on HN really doesn't match the story IMo.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#57Regrettably, most writers possess excellent English skills but lack the ability to thoroughly research topics.
On the other hand, ChatGPT (GPT-4) is capable of generating well-written content. Especially GPT-4 32K.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#58For coding I've been using it as an assistant, not a replacement. I don't see why writers couldn't do the same, and be more cost effective and produce higher quality output than either alone.
The time and attention cost of dealing with an external resource (such as a writer or translator) is also significant. Meanwhile, the ChatGPT prompt is just there, and it's 80 percent as good as a human writer, then (from the perspective of many companies) -- "Hallelujah".
As the Reddit piece put the matter so succinctly:
But, and I will say this again and again, businesses/clients, beyond very high end brands, DO NOT CARE. They have to put profits first. Small businesses especially, but even corporations are always cutting corners.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's plenty of "engineers" whose job is to update some trivial frontend code or similar that will be automated away. I think software engineer salaries are about to tank really quick.
Do not equate "frontend" with "trivial". Huge mistake.
We've been working on that one a lot longer than frontend.
Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the kind of attitude that makes many hate tech workers.
Why? I think the emphasis was on “marketing noise,” i.e. something no one wants or needs that is forced into peoples’ eyeballs against their will through paid advertising channels.
Bland, inadequate platitudes thrown out advising people to just go find a marketable skill in the new economy ignore the fact that the number of potential occupations that you can make a decent living doing has been shrinking for decades.
If you're not a programmer, a doctor, or possess some other rare skill, you're fucked. And of course the whole point of a marketable skill is that it's only marketable because other people don't have it.
At some point we're going to have to go through the stages of grief as a society and accept that it's unsustainable to deny a middle class lifestyle to anyone who doesn't possess rare skills, especially when the list of skills considered rare shrinks decade after decade thanks to automation.
A continuously growing underclass with continuously declining prospects is a recipe for violence and revolution if we don't start taking this problem more seriously.
There are many possible answers. Universal basic income gets thrown around a lot. I like that idea, but I think it needs to be paired with wage subsidies for low wage jobs too. If basically every job is on the path to becoming low wage some day, we have to regard that as the market failure that it is and stop letting the market near-unilaterally decide the price of labor.