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As a Muslim, I can say there is something definitely different about Ramadan. It’s supposed to help your spiritual development, so it’s not surprising at all that judges would display more mercy at that time. If anything these two conflicting studies could point to the effect of an intentional spiritual focus, rather than hunger itself.
Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…
If you look at the replies you'll see the huge variety of responses people have to this, which is absolutely fascinating. I think this might actually be different for different people.
I’m kind of perplexed at all of these anecdotes from people who tried fasting and assume their experience to be definitive for everyone.
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Same here. My hunger plateaued after two days, but didn't go away, just became a bit more bearable. 12 days was the longest fast I've done.
12 days with no food? Like just water and electrolytes etc.? This is some spartan discipline.
I feel like the entire field of psychology is no more valid than homeopathy. Just people coming up with theories why something happens, patting themselves on the back, then the whole thing gets inevitably disproven few years/decades later. And it doesn't have the hallmarks of actual science, where people go ok, our theory was slightly wrong, let's refine it - no, it turns out the entire approaches and assumptions are…
That's called science: to act on data and knowledge you have, and to refine your theories with more / better data and knowledge you gain over time. And that's true over all fields of science - no one got it right or complete on the first try, we are building on literally thousands of years of experimentation and thinking.
This sort of revisionist/hindsight thinking is, coincidentally, fueling a lot of the antivaxxer/covid denier bullshit: Yes, now we know that decent immunity needs three to four doses of a COVID vaccine, and that it is likely that we need regular refreshers to keep up with evolving variants. But it remains a valid statement that, back two years ago, the available data suggested that one (AZ) or two (BT/Moderna) doses were enough to provide immunity. And people whining that "they should have known better" are charlatans at best and destructive discourse participants at worst, because they do not understand the basic definition of how science works.
For example: it took until the 1980s until it was formally recognized that washing hands is important in healthcare [1].
[1] https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/handwashi...
As a Muslim, I can say there is something definitely different about Ramadan. It’s supposed to help your spiritual development, so it’s not surprising at all that judges would display more mercy at that time. If anything these two conflicting studies could point to the effect of an intentional spiritual focus, rather than hunger itself.
Heh. I have actually quoted the original study. Good to see it revisited. Science at work.
I feel like the entire field of psychology is no more valid than homeopathy. Just people coming up with theories why something happens, patting themselves on the back, then the whole thing gets inevitably disproven few years/decades later. And it doesn't have the hallmarks of actual science, where people go ok, our theory was slightly wrong, let's refine it - no, it turns out the entire approaches and assumptions are…
As a Muslim, I can say there is something definitely different about Ramadan. It’s supposed to help your spiritual development, so it’s not surprising at all that judges would display more mercy at that time. If anything these two conflicting studies could point to the effect of an intentional spiritual focus, rather than hunger itself.
I'm a daily faster for the past 20 years, so I can attest (anecdotally) to the benefits of working while hungry. Once you adapt, after a couple weeks, instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. After all, despite the trappings of modern society, we are a predator species. Hunger gets shit done. When I was a kid, I recall the teachers always telling us to have a good meal before a test.…
> Hunger gets shit done Hunger gets something done. Not necessarily the right thing. I see what you mean though > always telling us to have a good meal before a test I wonder how many of these are 'outdated memes' from times where kids were more neglected and/or didn't have supervision then went to school however and 'eat a good meal before a test' actually means 'try to eat something before coming to school one time…
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Comparing the effect of different fasting duration only across judges who fasted during Ramadan most likely removed the influence of religion-inspired forgiving behavior.
How would it? They are all practicing muslims. How could you correct for a trait that is present in every one of the study participants?