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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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What makes it fast, and is GitHub not fast enough? Why is their UI (which is Forgejo, fork of Gitea) such a blatant clone of GitHub’s?

> such a blatant clone of GitHub

It's not a bad thing per se. GitHub has an okay interface, why not copy the good parts instead of reinventing the wheel for the sake of it?

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#52

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Services don't need to handle every single use case to be viable alternatives. GitHub does host proprietary software, but it is most well known for being a place to collaborate on free and open source software. Codeberg addresses this primary use case in a more focused way than GitHub intends to, and because of this, Codeberg is an excellent alternative to GitHub.

This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

Wow, entitled much? Nobody owes you anything, nobody is obliged to host your code. If you want to use the same UI for your closed/work projects and your FOSS projects, you can host your own instance; Forgejo is FOSS. Codeberg seems to be focused at providing a free service to the FOSS community, _and that's okay_. You don't get to be mad at that.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Services don't need to handle every single use case to be viable alternatives. GitHub does host proprietary software, but it is most well known for being a place to collaborate on free and open source software. Codeberg addresses this primary use case in a more focused way than GitHub intends to, and because of this, Codeberg is an excellent alternative to GitHub.

This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

> the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself.

Strongly disagree. Given how hard decentralized collaboration seems to be in general, I'm amazed at what has been achieved. Imagine the internet and associated buisnesses without open source software.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#54

People don't seem to realize the risk of centralizing on a single provider and solution. Currently, it's like 90% of the FOSS projects are hosted on GitHub. It all seems smooth and all until one day you log in to their platform and find yourself essentially shunned-off from collaborating on FOSS scene [1] . I'm grateful Codeberg, sourcehut and other alternatives exist. One nitpick from my experience: Codeberg's stati…

There should always be a mirror or archive for projects that are used, yeah. It's probably easier to archive stuff when it's centralised to one platform.

Collaborating on multiple platforms would make sense if not everyone used GitHub. It's the kind of thing that can be solved on a needed basis. As far as I know the only thing people hate about GitHub is it was proven copilot was stealing code from repos where it ignored licenses completely for collecting more training data.

Your account being banned probably does fall under incentivised interests, aka circumventing censorship. Your country can literally say ban X or we ban your platform from our country. I'm not sure why you wouldn't do such things under a burner anyway given you're also breaking laws. The expectation should be that you don't make it.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Services don't need to handle every single use case to be viable alternatives. GitHub does host proprietary software, but it is most well known for being a place to collaborate on free and open source software. Codeberg addresses this primary use case in a more focused way than GitHub intends to, and because of this, Codeberg is an excellent alternative to GitHub.

This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

> I don't want to learn a different UI for contributing to FOSS than the one I use for my daily work.

Codeberg is an instance of the FOSS forge platform Forgejo, which is a fork of Gitea. As FOSS projects, Forgejo and Gitea can be used to host any kind of software, proprietary or open source, without restriction. It is entirely possible for a person to use Forgejo/Gitea to contribute to both work projects and off-work projects, even if the work projects are proprietary.

If your employer chooses to use GitHub instead of Forgejo/Gitea, nobody else is obligated to stick with GitHub to make it more convenient for you to contribute. FOSS projects may choose Codeberg for its other advantages, such as its superior privacy policy and the fact that Codeberg does not automatically resell content from its hosted repositories as a proprietary service (like GitHub does with Copilot).

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Services don't need to handle every single use case to be viable alternatives. GitHub does host proprietary software, but it is most well known for being a place to collaborate on free and open source software. Codeberg addresses this primary use case in a more focused way than GitHub intends to, and because of this, Codeberg is an excellent alternative to GitHub.

This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

> all are welcome

Except for those who don't want their code to be used for training proprietary AI models.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#58
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They are selling everyone's code through copilot

Copilot is trained on publicly available code.

Publically available doesn't mean you can use it for your model. Licenses still exist.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

#59
post #52

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This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

Wow, entitled much? Nobody owes you anything, nobody is obliged to host your code. If you want to use the same UI for your closed/work projects and your FOSS projects, you can host your own instance; Forgejo is FOSS. Codeberg seems to be focused at providing a free service to the FOSS community, _and that's okay_. You don't get to be mad at that.

You do if they are advertising as an alternative - that is specifically inviting comparisons.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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post #44

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They are selling everyone's code through copilot

Copilot is trained on publicly available code.

It's publicly available code that comes with licenses on how you can use that code that they ignore, such as share alike but they're charging. That's an ethical issue.

In the early days (months after public release not beta), it would literally give you code stolen from someone's repo, sometimes with credentials (security risk) and project specific stuff. That means because you took code verbatim to the naked eye you would be held liable for license violation.

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