F copyright, specially perpetual copyright used by big corporations as a weapon against poor people.
Tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
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Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#52The article is extremely misleading. It makes it seem like the 4 publishers are against Internet Archive as a whole, when all they sued for was for the unrestricted publication of copyrighted books during the start of the pandemic.
It was prompted by the unrestricted lending, but it's pretty clear that the fight is now about lending at all.[0]
That may still only be the OpenLibrary, but it's not just the unrestricted lending, and I wouldn't be surprised it it also has a chilling effect on other scans. I'm curious how letting people view scans of obscure 1940s magazines is legal if doing it for books is not. They're not even restricted to one "borrower" at a time per physical copy with periodicals.
[0] https://authorsguild.org/news/ag-celebrates-resounding-win-i...
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#53We already have laws for historical landmarks. These laws ensure the protection of things of societal significance, even to the point of restricting the rights of their private owners. We need such laws for the digital realm. If we had them we wouldn't have to worry about Internet Archive, dpreview, etc. Imagine if we had such laws in place long ago. We could be living in a world where Geocities and MySpace still exi…
Why should tax dollars be used for this?
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
A distributed, highly resilient digital museum. The internet archive meets S3 meets BitTorrent. We’re most of the way there, just need improvements around durability, rebalancing around geographies, and the identity and metadata (item inventory) planes. (no association with IA, just an active contributor)
Do you know if the IA is working on such projects / is there a way to get involved? Or is it mostly third parties doing so?
http://blog.archive.org/tag/distributed-web/
My personal opinion is that they’re going about this the wrong way, with IPFS, anything blockchain, etc. They can support this entire model with a DHT (supporting PKI for identity) and torrent advertising, the latest version of BitTorrent (which has great support for cross swarm file serving by hash), and RSS or other feeds for advertising the corpus or chunks of it.
I maintain a copy in Cloudflare R2 of all IA item metadata, and would love to work on the ArchiveTeam equivalent of a Warrior appliance: appliance or container starts, consumes an RSS feed to request the least seeded items, downloads them up to disk space allowed, and then serve downloaded item files to the swarm.
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#55which made copyrighted books available for free during the COVID-19 pandemic. The publishers behind the lawsuit alleged that this entailed copyright infringement. Along with everybody with two brain cells to rub together. We all screamed "Hey, you idiots are going to ruin everything if you act like the pandemic has magically nullified the concept of copyright" and they fucking did it anyway, and now exactly what we s…
They're not in court for the emergency library. They're in court for the 1-1 CDL lending they did. I'm tired of seeing this "well IA shouldn't have done the emergency library" line. Do you honestly believe the only reason publishers went after IA is the emergency library? I think this would have happened eventually, so pointing to the emergency library does nothing but tell everyone that you were right all along. The…
> They're not in court for the emergency library.
They are in court for the "emergency library". The emergency library is a key part of the case. It's just inevitable that the lawsuit would also hinge on if 1 - 1 CDL is legally permissible and the case will inevitably have to rule on that.
And yes, timing wise, and from the letters the publishes sent to the IA, they are explicitly about the "emergency library".
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#56Frankly, what the IA did here is absolutely the right thing. Copyright in the US is horribly fundamentally broken, and the idea that factual information about our history and world should not be referenceable and accessible for free is a pretty heinous one. Information wants to be free, and the work that IA did for "digital lending" during the pandemic was an essential move in the direction of ensuring that people can access this information regardless of their physical proximity and access to the base source material.
I don't understand the backlash in the comments here, it seems to all come from a perspective of people being so downtrodden they just accept the current status quo crafted by MAFIAA lawyers, rather than looking at it holistically from first-principles.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
The USA's biggest export is our culture...like it or not. Think of movies, music, etc. Some of it is intangible.
>> You can wonder all you like, and call me a cynic, but the US runs on money not culture. The American identity is built on money and wealth and excess, not on anything you might describe as "culture". > The USA's biggest export is our culture...like it or not. Think of movies, music, etc. Some of it is intangible. Yeah, but that's not high culture. It's mass-market culture that makes a lot of money. I think what th…
What's the definition of high culture?
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#58which made copyrighted books available for free during the COVID-19 pandemic. The publishers behind the lawsuit alleged that this entailed copyright infringement. Along with everybody with two brain cells to rub together. We all screamed "Hey, you idiots are going to ruin everything if you act like the pandemic has magically nullified the concept of copyright" and they fucking did it anyway, and now exactly what we s…
They're not in court for the emergency library. They're in court for the 1-1 CDL lending they did. I'm tired of seeing this "well IA shouldn't have done the emergency library" line. Do you honestly believe the only reason publishers went after IA is the emergency library? I think this would have happened eventually, so pointing to the emergency library does nothing but tell everyone that you were right all along. The…
> Do you honestly believe the only reason publishers went after IA is the emergency library?
I mean, they did so right after IA did it, specifically citing IA doing it as why. Maybe they would have come after it eventually anyway but the Emergency Library specifically marked IA as an organisation that couldn't be trusted; even if they would have come after CDL, IA didn't have to hand them a slam-dunk case.
In all their comms about this IA is desperate to reframe it as nothing to do with Emergency Library, probably because they know how it undermines their case completely.
Edit: EA -> Emergency Library
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you know if the IA is working on such projects / is there a way to get involved? Or is it mostly third parties doing so?
http://blog.archive.org/tag/distributed-web/ My personal opinion is that they’re going about this the wrong way, with IPFS, anything blockchain, etc. They can support this entire model with a DHT (supporting PKI for identity) and torrent advertising, the latest version of BitTorrent (which has great support for cross swarm file serving by hash), and RSS or other feeds for advertising the corpus or chunks of it. I mai…
Agreed! Super helpful, thanks.
Re: If we lose the Internet Archive, we’re screwed
#60None of the hand wringing about covid is the least bit relevant to the question of whether the emergency library is copyright infringement. If Congress wants to set aside copyright during pandemics, that’s fine (and maybe a decent idea frankly). But in the absence of something like that, this is all just a smoke screen.
What a poorly written article.