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Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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I hope people don't let their cat go to outside. problems are problems.

Cats belong outside where possible. And birds have predators, it's just nature.

Indoor cats live longer and have fewer health issues. Sorry kitty, I like the idea of native wildlife existing and less vet bills more than your freedom.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Some of them kill a lot of birds and bats. On top of that, they of course need access roads for maintenance crews to come do their thing once in a while, if located in a former pristine environment that isn't ideal. To say nothing of when the construction actually takes place, again, if it all happens in a pristine location then it's not ok.

I've always been suspect of the 'kills birds' argument. I lived near some turbines on an extremely windy coast, and never EVER saw any dead birds anywhere near it. Daily cleaning up the evidence with ruthless efficiency or just FUD by the NIMBYs?

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Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Cats belong outside where possible. And birds have predators, it's just nature.

Indoor cats live longer and have fewer health issues. Sorry kitty, I like the idea of native wildlife existing and less vet bills more than your freedom.

Safety over freedom and happiness certainly is an increasingly common way of viewing the world.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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People just hate change source: am people Not a blanket statement to say all change is good tho

I find Americans really don't like change. Still using a penny, still using dollar bills, not using the metric system, still using Fahrenheit.

> really don't like change

> Still using a penny

Sorry, too easy... :)

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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Indoor cats live longer and have fewer health issues. Sorry kitty, I like the idea of native wildlife existing and less vet bills more than your freedom.

Safety over freedom and happiness certainly is an increasingly common way of viewing the world.

It's not safety. It's more like extermination: domestic cats kill to play, not to eat. They have plenty of energy, compared to wild animals, and vets keep their life longer and more healthy. So the balance goes even more off.

(I love cats, and keep two. They have their serving of fresh air in the fire escape.)

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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As a kid that grew up on the south plains (Texas panhandle). I have a love hate relationship with those windmills. On the one hand it's neat seeing all that green power generation. On the other, it does ruin the landscape to some extent, it can be visually jarring to be driving some back road, go over a rise that, and be smack in the middle of a wind farm. It also can be a little distracting at night, where the darkn…

I think the red lights make them more mysterious at night. Especially when you drive over a hill and it's all foggy, and there's this big field of red dots flashing. It's like the robots are coming :) I like it.

I love the red dots. My partner and I drive out to Big Bend every couple years to spend a week or so there, and on the drive back there's a stretch of road where at night there's a huge number of the dots juuuust barely visible over the horizon, and then you start to crest a certain hill and suddenly BOOM there's even more! It's always glorious and I wake her up everytime so at least one of us can fully appreciate the majesty. Unfortunately my partner doesn't drive these days, her epilepsy has gotten bad enough that they (honestly thankfully) yoinked her license, so I don't really get to take it all in since I'm also driving the car at the same time and trying not to die while staring at the pretty lights :(

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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I hope people don't let their cat go to outside. problems are problems.

Cats belong outside where possible. And birds have predators, it's just nature.

Birds have predators, but most predators don't have humans to shelter them at night, feed them when food is scarce so they are always well fed when they hunt, and take them to the vet to protect them from disease, parasites, and heal their injuries. And human development has pushed out most of the predators that would keep cat populations in check (like coyotes)

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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I hope people don't let their cat go to outside. problems are problems.

Cats belong outside where possible. And birds have predators, it's just nature.

yes but we killed off or drove off many of those predators.

Re: Bell Labs gave up its roof to patch the Statue of Liberty

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post #55

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Safety over freedom and happiness certainly is an increasingly common way of viewing the world.

It's not safety. It's more like extermination: domestic cats kill to play, not to eat. They have plenty of energy, compared to wild animals, and vets keep their life longer and more healthy. So the balance goes even more off. (I love cats, and keep two. They have their serving of fresh air in the fire escape.)

Mine has an enclosed back verandah, a 3x15 meter space with lots of hideyholes. She also gets (supervised) time in a backyard with long grass. Doubtless she kills lizards and rodents during this time. But it's about as good a compromise as I can give her.
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