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Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

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Recently a got fairly basic, but fully functional smart/sports watch. It counts steps, heart rate, "intensity minutes", distance, GPS, etc. I got it because I was hoping that having a neat gadget to track this stuff would help motivate me to get in those extra exercise minutes. It turns out that it works for me. Seeing the distance/step numbers go up satisfies the little "make graph go up" gremlin in my brain.

Even better than the step count is the resting heart rate.

Mine went from mid 60s down to upper 40s within 6 months of getting my fitbit.

I started hiking regularly, and seeing that number drop consistently felt rewarding.

I did this when unemployed and hiked Arizona mountains almost daily, so this probably isn't typical, but it was part of a lifestyle shift towards fitness which has been wonderful.

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I wonder how remote work has impacted the average number of steps per day. I normally get ~5k steps from my commute (walk from home to train, walk from train to office and vice versa) without doing anything else. On days I work from home I'm definitely much more sedentary. Yes I can go on a walk to compensate, but I usually don't...

WFH allowed me to get a dog. That made me start running every day. I am now on day 240 of my daily run streak ( https://www.runeveryday.com/ )

Nice work! Keep it up, you're well on your way.

Sounds like fun but I don't know if I could stay motivated in the winter.

Re: Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

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I wonder how remote work has impacted the average number of steps per day. I normally get ~5k steps from my commute (walk from home to train, walk from train to office and vice versa) without doing anything else. On days I work from home I'm definitely much more sedentary. Yes I can go on a walk to compensate, but I usually don't...

People move around way less. There's a vocal group though, that will tell you how – finally – they're able to hit the gym four times a week. It's less, but people think it's more. It might be true for some, some of the time for some months, but of course movement will decrease.

There probably should be data on this from Fitbit or something, no? Obviously biasd from the type of person who has a Fitbit but maybe Google or apple has less biased surveillance data...

Re: Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You joke but perhaps we need to (scientifically) find the minimum number of steps for a reasonable lifespan in tabular form for a given weight, lifestyle, diet, occupation and ethnicity. The law of diminishing returns will apply after a certain amount of physical activity. So will negative consequences of too much exercise where you damage your limbs.

There’s not much science for the ultramarathon folks, but in general more is better. This talk of negative consequences of too much exercise has no grounding in reality.

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Doctors: It's really important that you regularly exercise. Get your heart rate up high a few times a week with some sports! Doctors: Just 10,000 steps of walking every day is fine too! Doctors: Ok, how about 8,000 steps only once or twice a week. Can you do that? Doctors: For the love of god, please just get off the couch every once in a while...

Doctors: at the very least, do not sit in the couch, recline. Sitting is very bad for you!

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Ain't going to help ...you're going to die anyway.. so best you just move to Brazil and travel to the Amazon River and build a raft and live on it and catch fish and pick fruit and stare up at the stars every night till you get old and decrepit and wonder at the marvelous universe that you were born in until one day you see no more and you feel no more and you are no more.. instead of just striving and working out an…

If you don't mind me asking, why don't you do that? If you already are, what are the rates like for Starlink's jungle-rafting plan?

Because I believe that in my essence I am essentially just information contained in my brain.. and I believe that if such information can be sufficiently preserved for a sufficiently long period of time, then I believe that such information can be recovered in sufficient quantities so that the person that I am can be revived or live again some other means or ways.. that might mean immortality for me because information could be considered immortal.. therefore I signed up for cryonics, the practice of freezing the brain after death so that the brain can be preserved for long periods of time in order for some revival to take place in the distant future.. if there were no such thing as cryonics, I would be floating on a raft in the Amazon right now, because there really isn't much point to all this other stuff in my opinion

Re: Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

#58

Recently a got fairly basic, but fully functional smart/sports watch. It counts steps, heart rate, "intensity minutes", distance, GPS, etc. I got it because I was hoping that having a neat gadget to track this stuff would help motivate me to get in those extra exercise minutes. It turns out that it works for me. Seeing the distance/step numbers go up satisfies the little "make graph go up" gremlin in my brain.

It can definitely be motivating, though some features are more "one size fits all", like the intensity minute counter. I know a person who gets maybe one intensity minute per week when it should be 300+, simply because the heart rate is lower on average than the manufacturer expects. Meanwhile my count is usually doubled because it counts very intense minutes twice and 99% of the time I exceed the seemingly hardcoded…

Mine fortunately has an "automatic" mode for determining those thresholds, as well a way to manually configure the thresholds (which sounds like it would be useful for the two cases you mentioned)

Re: Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind me asking, why don't you do that? If you already are, what are the rates like for Starlink's jungle-rafting plan?

Because I believe that in my essence I am essentially just information contained in my brain.. and I believe that if such information can be sufficiently preserved for a sufficiently long period of time, then I believe that such information can be recovered in sufficient quantities so that the person that I am can be revived or live again some other means or ways.. that might mean immortality for me because informati…

Well, that is a point of view. There's a video game you might like, called SOMA.

Re: Walking 8k Steps Twice a Week Could Prolong Your Life, Study Finds

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You joke but perhaps we need to (scientifically) find the minimum number of steps for a reasonable lifespan in tabular form for a given weight, lifestyle, diet, occupation and ethnicity. The law of diminishing returns will apply after a certain amount of physical activity. So will negative consequences of too much exercise where you damage your limbs.

There’s not much science for the ultramarathon folks, but in general more is better. This talk of negative consequences of too much exercise has no grounding in reality.

A running friend of long standing--we met in the last half mile of a 50-miler in 1982--said a few years ago that her knees aren't up to much more than two or three miles with the dogs lately. Now, she was a much more serious ultra-runner than I ever was: I took away from the 50 the knowledge that I really didn't enjoy that distance; she did at least one 100 (in less than 24 hours) and a multi-day run longer than that.

But as HN likes to day, the plural of anecdote is not data. Nor the dual: but for what it's worth, I haven't run a marathon since 1986, not have I stopped running.

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