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Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Remember, a Grand Jury indicted John Edwards, a vice-Presidential candidate, for essentially the same thing Trump is being accused of -- that is using campaign funds to hide an affair. Prior to Edward's indictment he was thought be the future of the democratic party, if Edwards was convicted on all counts he faced up the 30 years in prison, he beat the charges though -- a rarity in federal prosecutions. So there is p…

>Prior to Edward's indictment he was thought be the future of the democratic party Respectfully he wasn't seen that way. His indictment was in 2011. Obama was president and still had another election to do. Edwards had not been relevant since 2008, really since 2004, as no one thought he could be Hilary or Obama in the primary. >So there is precedent for indictments for this particular crime One could argue its shows…

Whether or not Trump was fading away has nothing to do with whether he should be charged, which is a function of his conduct and the law, not his political success or lack thereof.

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Remember, a Grand Jury indicted John Edwards, a vice-Presidential candidate, for essentially the same thing Trump is being accused of -- that is using campaign funds to hide an affair. Prior to Edward's indictment he was thought be the future of the democratic party, if Edwards was convicted on all counts he faced up the 30 years in prison, he beat the charges though -- a rarity in federal prosecutions. So there is p…

>Prior to Edward's indictment he was thought be the future of the democratic party Respectfully he wasn't seen that way. His indictment was in 2011. Obama was president and still had another election to do. Edwards had not been relevant since 2008, really since 2004, as no one thought he could be Hilary or Obama in the primary. >So there is precedent for indictments for this particular crime One could argue its shows…

He's running for president is at the top or 2nd place in polls with Republicans

He is lying about election fraud, states tried to send fake electors, they used the courts to push phony cases.

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Every single person in politics is a lizard on camera. And they are required to be by their voters. Better to focus on what outcomes they deliver than whether or not they are a lizard (they always are)

He is lying about election fraud causing people to attack the Capital. That's an outcome

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Nearly the entire point of the United States at its founding was that the law should apply to political leaders. We are overdue for setting the precedent of a former President being charged with a crime, and we ought to go back and charge a few other former Presidents with crimes while we’re at it.

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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What do you mean? He's a real lawyer and law professor. I haven't heard of any of these criticisms. edit: I can't reply, so... Specific criticisms, please? The link is to a video with a Canadian lawyer and someone who might actually have a relevant opinion on US law who, several minutes in, can only seem to broadly and mockingly dismiss him without saying anything specific other than accuse him of being biased and mo…

> edit: I can't reply, so...

For very fresh comments (<1 minute?) you need to go to the comment page by clicking on its time to get a reply box. (Honestly not sure what that's trying to achieve: it's not like one considered the comment for longer before loading up keyboard_warrior.exe just because the comment existed for longer at the moment one loaded the page.)

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Political theater. If anything, this will help Trump and possibly give him a boast in his own party.

Even in the absolute worst case scenario for Trump (he loses and... has a massive fine? Is in jail for a bit?), this is a huge boost to Trump's campaign handed to him on a silver platter. Honestly thats exactly what Democrats want too, as they would rather run against Trump than Desantis or a Never Trumper.

This framing comes up all the time. Is there anything that would…not be good for Trump’s campaign?

Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump

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Remember, a Grand Jury indicted John Edwards, a vice-Presidential candidate, for essentially the same thing Trump is being accused of -- that is using campaign funds to hide an affair. Prior to Edward's indictment he was thought be the future of the democratic party, if Edwards was convicted on all counts he faced up the 30 years in prison, he beat the charges though -- a rarity in federal prosecutions. So there is p…

> So there is precedent for indictments for this particular crime

Sure, but boy does it seem like a Plan Z attempt by Democrats to get literally any kind of charge to stick to Trump after 7!!! years of trying. And this particular case is one that's been known about for pretty much that entire time but was shelved, probably because they know it's weak.

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