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Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by sireat »

NameNickHN wrote: post #35
Shank wrote: post #33

+Matt Cutts commented on this particular issue on Google+: https://plus.google.com/109412257237874861202/posts/RpNNBRr6... "I can't easily imagine Jef Poskanzer was click-spamming AdSense, while at the same time I trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. +Jef Poskanzer , I hope someone digs into the case to investigate deeply and reaches out if there's any more info we can share." I have to agree, though…

But what hope is there for people les famous?

Only solution is to become famous or have someone famous take on your cause.

This has been the case with Google forever(and discussed on HN multiple times), you get customer support if you are notable or raise a big enough stink.

Reason Google does it, is because they are not a customer centric company, they are engineer driven company(or at least used to be, what they are now is an open question). They save serious amount of money by not having human employees evaluate each AdSense account on case by case basis.

Just don't put all your eggs in Google basket is all I can say.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by robk »

asto wrote: post #17

Ha! This is nothing. I actually know why my adsense account doesn't work. Google thinks I'm trying to scam them by creating multiple accounts because they have another account on their database with the EXACT same address and phone number. That's not a duplicate account Google, it's called a brother!

Why would you and your brother have the same phone number? Surely you each have a different mobile number.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by kmfrk »

franklindholm wrote: post #43
Shank wrote: post #33

+Matt Cutts commented on this particular issue on Google+: https://plus.google.com/109412257237874861202/posts/RpNNBRr6... "I can't easily imagine Jef Poskanzer was click-spamming AdSense, while at the same time I trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. +Jef Poskanzer , I hope someone digs into the case to investigate deeply and reaches out if there's any more info we can share." I have to agree, though…

It disgusts me tremendously that a known name gets this special treatment, in my eyes it only proves how corrupt Google are becoming. If they would have treated Jef Poskanzer exactly like anyone else, that is ignore his obvious innocence and send him a form letter and freezing all of his money, that would have in some way given legitimacy to the claim that they trust the judgment and abilities of the AdSense team. Go…

It basically comes across as "We're sorry we got caught with our shitty treatment of customers" instead of as an apology.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

#54

Post by radimm »

This is so annoying. Same happened to us with AdWords account for our business (physical goods). Only answer from Google after appeal

- "Please do not contact us again". - "Do not open any new accounts".

At the same time at least one of the competitors who is using dodgy practices (not disclosing full prices, listing VAT, etc) is happily advertising for last couple of years.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by johnx123-up »

rplnt wrote: post #47
johnx123-up wrote: post #19

Suing is the only option to get your money back...

I'm sure that reading the license agreement would tell you otherwise. I.e. there is no way they would make themselves liable somehow.

I don't think so. My friend once told me a case where someone can sue even for broken agreement.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by msellout »

white_devil wrote: post #48
gata wrote: post #20

I once used their very strict account disabling policy to get a competitor kicked from Google AdSense. It was not even that difficult. I just spent a couple of minutes every day visiting his website, clicking all the adsense links, closing all the openend tabs, reloading the page and so on. It took a few weeks, but then the ads just stopped showing up (despite the Javascript code still being loaded) and a few days la…

Interesting how you posted something that amounts to "I'm an asshole", just because it was relevant to the discussion.

One of the new memes is that sociopaths are good at business.

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by [deleted] »

robk wrote: post #52
asto wrote: post #17

Ha! This is nothing. I actually know why my adsense account doesn't work. Google thinks I'm trying to scam them by creating multiple accounts because they have another account on their database with the EXACT same address and phone number. That's not a duplicate account Google, it's called a brother!

Why would you and your brother have the same phone number? Surely you each have a different mobile number.

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Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by tluyben2 »

We had multiple sites banned and my accounts and some business partner accounts banned as well. Almost all without reason. I mean ofcourse they 'have' some reason, they just don't tell it and no-one can tell me why either. Like acme.com; I have known the acme.com site for many years; how is acme.com a threat to their advertisers? It's a nice site.

Anyway; you cannot argue with them and it makes me upset that they would do this like this. I like their products, but their adsense and adwords 'policies' are insane; you are making them money both ways and with adwords you are a paying client, yet there is no-one you can call or mail. If you do you just get 'our decision is final, don't contact us anymore'. Is that an acceptable way to threat a client who did 100s of 1000s of $ in adsense (which means Google did how much % of that running over my sites?) or more than that amount via adwords?

And Matt Cutts is also showing the real Google in that regard; he is always helping famous / connected people out, while the rest of us goes out of business because some vague Google automated fraud blah. This goes for SEO too (the HN incident for instance).

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by tluyben2 »

gata wrote: post #20

I once used their very strict account disabling policy to get a competitor kicked from Google AdSense. It was not even that difficult. I just spent a couple of minutes every day visiting his website, clicking all the adsense links, closing all the openend tabs, reloading the page and so on. It took a few weeks, but then the ads just stopped showing up (despite the Javascript code still being loaded) and a few days la…

Ugh. That's nasty :( If that works, how come Google doesn't know that?

Re: Goodbye AdSense

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Post by jws »

Someone needs to create a market place to serve victims of google's death sentences.

1) Tap a pool of willing people that would never be involved in AdSense. Perhaps non-technical, older people who have no inclination toward that sort of thing.

2) Buy their "google birth right" from them, that is, for a fixed fee up front and an annual bonus buy the right to spin up an LLC using their identity to do business with google.

3) Rent these LLCs to victims of google and their negligent bots. The money will come through the LLC, and there will need to be a percentage commission to cover the tax liability of the identity donor plus pay. Maybe minimal if you make the payments to the victim be an expense.

4) The renter/victim will need to make a deposit that is forfeit if they burn the LLC identity, to keep them from being reckless.

The cost involved won't help the casual user, but for people forced to make a life style change because their primary income was just destroyed, I'm sure this would work.

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