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What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by drumdance »

rockarage wrote: post #16

This is just sad, I get the impression from the comments and up votes that tech does not get Hollywood. Hollywood business only work because only Hollywood is willing to give Christopher Nolan 200+ million dollars to make Dark Knight, ditto with James Cameron's Avatar. When Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook or Yahoo decides to give a Christopher Nolan or James Cameron $200million+ to make a movie, things will be dif…

Blockbusters are not the only movies that get made. Let Hollywood keep Batman. In the meantime, it's not hard to imagine a new way of making and distributing Mad Men and Portlandia.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by dredmorbius »

aaronklein wrote: post #3
sounds wrote: post #2

Pure genius. You can, by the way, offer better licensing to specific companies and unaffiliated individuals -- leaving Hollywood with the unskippable ads, "premium tweets," and all the rest. Good luck, however, winning in court to enforce your license.

But what if by losing, the court invalidates all of Hollywood's ridiculous licensing ploys as well? That would be winning by losing. :)

That's the legal ju-jitsu performed by the GNU GPL and related copyleft licenses.

The stronger the anti-misappropriation measures of copyright law, the stronger the sharing (and compulsory re-licensing) provisions of the GPL.

Playing other legal regimens against themselves in a similar fashion is a creative and often effective strategy.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by wisty »

mrleinad wrote: post #5

I think Hollywood is just a facàde for the US government. A while ago, Hillary Clinton admitted the US government is losing the "information war"[1]. What could possibly be better for winning an information war, than to pass legislation like this, under the guise of "fighting piracy"? The government could not be seen as promoting this kind of legislation.. otherwise, they´d be on the same league as Iran or China.. Ho…

A long time ago, the US pushed Hollywood because they knew it would essentially be free advertising for everything else the US sold. That's probably unnecessary these days. It's pretty obvious from certain comments that Hollywood is helping members keep their seats (via campaign funding), and threatening to pull the funding of anyone who rocks the boat.

It's like a Hollywood movie, about a beast (or robot) which ends up overpowering its master.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by sliverstorm »

peterhunt wrote: post #34
naner wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it would be interesting to see a counterpoint. Sure. 1. Just because this is the way things work doesn't mean this is the only way things can work. Or 2. We aren't entitled to have Dark Knights and Avatars. Lets assume that, for whatever reason, in New Hollywood it will only be feasible to fund smaller budget movies. So what? People will still watch and enjoy the smaller-budget movies.

But I, and many other people, am willing to pay for these big budget movies even if I have to sit through ads. I like big-budget flicks.

Agreed. I'd take one Dark Knight over a hundred low-budget decent flicks any day.

If you believe low-budget is the way of the future, nothing is stopping you. If you believe big-budget needs to be killed by regulation et al before your superior low-budget future can compete, I wonder if you have things mixed up in your head.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by peterhunt »

alxp wrote: post #46
peterhunt wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hollywood movies (mostly) don't have interoperability issues or network effects.

They just try to pass laws to make interoperability (format shifting) a criminal offence.

You're setting up a false argument here -- they don't do anything to restrict indie filmmakers from distributing their content.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by fabjan »

rockarage wrote: post #16

This is just sad, I get the impression from the comments and up votes that tech does not get Hollywood. Hollywood business only work because only Hollywood is willing to give Christopher Nolan 200+ million dollars to make Dark Knight, ditto with James Cameron's Avatar. When Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook or Yahoo decides to give a Christopher Nolan or James Cameron $200million+ to make a movie, things will be dif…

A counterpoint to what, exactly?

Your comment seems to have nothing at all to do with the link.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by DanBC »

bigiain wrote: post #47
jordan0day wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"DRM died in the music industry" I'm not confident that's a factual statement.

Really? I can't think of anywhere I could go to buy DRMed music right now if I tried... iTMS watermarks music files, but they're not sold DRMed music files for years. Magnatune has _never_ sold DRMed files. ihearmusic.com - no drm. All the direct from artist music I've bought in the last few years - no drm. Soundcloud or artist "Pay what you want" deals - no drm. I can't recall having purchased any "big four" owned m…

Sansa Fuze's latest firmware update included support for something called "SlotRadio" - a bafflingly awful drmd music format.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by Joeboy »

sliverstorm wrote: post #54
peterhunt wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I, and many other people, am willing to pay for these big budget movies even if I have to sit through ads. I like big-budget flicks.

Agreed. I'd take one Dark Knight over a hundred low-budget decent flicks any day. If you believe low-budget is the way of the future, nothing is stopping you. If you believe big-budget needs to be killed by regulation et al before your superior low-budget future can compete, I wonder if you have things mixed up in your head.

Have I lost track of the plot here somehow? Aren't we talking about regulation to ensure big budget flicks can compete? This may be me failing at irony or something.

Re: What if Hollywood had to use tech like we have to watch movies?

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Post by philwelch »

peterhunt wrote: post #44
philwelch wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Bell Labs and indestructible black Western Electric telephones, but did they justify the Bell monopoly?

Hollywood movies (mostly) don't have interoperability issues or network effects.

No, they just raise money for colluding plutocrats to bribe corrupt politicians into trying to break the Internet.
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