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Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by simonh »

gdny wrote: post #21
simonh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure where you get that from. These are specifically designed to confuse face detection software. Edit: Maybe I see the cause of confusion. The videos show “person” detection, but the way these systems distinguish people from other objects is by faces. As far as I know cars don’t do that, they just detect objects and don’t care about faces, so it shouldn’t be an issue.

At the bottom of the « collections » page in the technology paragraph, they mention confusing the Yolo object detector into thinking you’re a giraffe with medium confidence instead of a person

Yolo includes face detection, that's how it detects people. So it looks like yes this tech can be used for confounding more general image classifiers, but it was originally developed specifically for face detectors and the videos show it defeating those.

Specifically on cars, I don't think any of the currently deployed systems do face detection. Apart from anything else it takes too long, almost half a second on the fastest systems. They sense people as generalised blobs. It would be quite dangerous, to a system like that many advertising billboards would appear to be people sticking their faces right up against the camera.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by enkid »

fhd2 wrote: post #36
tianqi wrote: post #35

This seems to have nothing to do with face recognition, but rather misleading the AI to misidentify person as other objects in object recognition task. I like their mission, and I think the design look pretty good. My only concern is that this feature could cause self-driving vehicles to ignore the person wearing it, thus creating a serious safety issue.

One might argue self-driving cars are the serious safety issue, but maybe that's a controversial take.

Only if you don't think human driven cars are a safety issue.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by dmarchand90 »

tianqi wrote: post #35

This seems to have nothing to do with face recognition, but rather misleading the AI to misidentify person as other objects in object recognition task. I like their mission, and I think the design look pretty good. My only concern is that this feature could cause self-driving vehicles to ignore the person wearing it, thus creating a serious safety issue.

Except it doesn't seem to work very well. A quick test using https://skybiometry.com/demo/face-detect/ On one of their model photos https://static.wixstatic.com/media/8fdf8a_54f20de903e848c783... shows easy facial detection.

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by [deleted] »

codetrotter wrote: post #48
gdny wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A perfect one, sure, but in practice the car might, at best, treat it with less priority than a human in case of a difficult decision to make, and at worst, treat a « 40% confidence giraffe » as a false positive and ignore it

Imagine the headlines. “Man run over by car in Lower Manhattan – autonomous vehicle mistook man for a giraffe”

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Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by simonh »

gdny wrote: post #47
JoBrad wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But wouldn’t a car avoid a giraffe, too?

A perfect one, sure, but in practice the car might, at best, treat it with less priority than a human in case of a difficult decision to make, and at worst, treat a « 40% confidence giraffe » as a false positive and ignore it

If a self driving car purposely ignores Giraffes or even real objects incorrectly identified as Giraffes or anything else, I think that's a problem. Africa is a place people drive cars in. And then there's this:

https://www.coolest-homemade-costumes.com/cute-sew-giraffe-c...

Re: Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software

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Post by Swenrekcah »

ryandrake wrote: post #18
wodenokoto wrote: post #13

The current HN headline [0]makes it clear what this is, but the actual website makes it really difficult to understand what their value proposition is, other than “designed in Italy made from Egyptian yarn” [0] “Clothing designed to confuse facial recognition software”

The web site copy is terrible! Every sentence vaguely hints at what the product is for without outright saying it. > Cap_able offers a high-tech product that opens the debate on issues of our present that will shape our future. Cap_able wants to have an impact on society, creating awareness on contemporary issues through highly innovative design products from a technological and ethical point of view. [and even more…

Perhaps that’s deliberate for plausible deniability both for the seller and buyers.
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