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Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by hardwaresofton »

tambourine_man wrote: post #48
hardwaresofton wrote: post #17

I've been feeling FOMO (for lack of a better term) about recent AI & ML/GPT progression. It feels like ML/AI it might be the beginning of the end for a large class of things (if I wanted to be alarmist I'd say "everything") -- and the fact that Fabrice Bellard has jumped in and done the absolutely obvious rising-tide thing (building an API that abstracts the technologies) speaks volumes. Releasing something like this…

Same here. I don't know if I retire or dive in deep. There's no really other way to sound other than alarmist. This is the biggest revolution I've seen in my lifetime and it's going to make the PC, internet and smartphone a kids toy.

> Same here. I don't know if I retire or dive in deep. There's no really other way to sound other than alarmist.

It might be a blind-leading-the-blind situation, but I wonder if retiring will protect you. Could you imagine having gone into retirement in the early internet? Wouldn't you be really confused at how to use things today? Or maybe you would just learn most useful things passively as a consumer.

It feels like the gap between the people who can make and the people who consume is widening.

> This is the biggest revolution I've seen in my lifetime and it's going to make the PC, internet and smartphone a kids toy.

This coupled with everything else that's happening is all too much. Getting closer and closer to cheap/free energy (batteries, solar, fusion, wind, etc), AI/ML, Robotics...

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by jefc1111 »

Accacin wrote: post #45
jefc1111 wrote: post #44

In comments on this post, and elsewhere on other posts about AI, I see a lot of people referring to worries around the potential for lots of types of jobs to be heavily impacted by this technology. I feel like people are often referring to 'coding' when they express these worries. You know, actually writing code, having been given a spec to do so, and perhaps also participating in code review, writing tests, all the…

In my day job I work with TypeScript and React, and if I'm honest, I'm not worried at all. Why should I be? Automation is all around us, and has been for years. The way I personally see it, is that AI such as ChatGPT is another tool in our arsenal that we as developers will have to figure out how it fits into our workflow. I think long term it will help us write better code, and in general be more productive. For exa…

I agree with this take, in the main. I think the level of FUD elsewhere is probably unwarranted. Though I fully subscribe to the idea that it is very disruptive tech.

In the context of software engineering I am tending to see it as another layer of abstraction. Once upon a time there was perhaps not much above machine code / assembly, but now you can have quite a few layers providing abstractions over that ending up perhaps at Javascript, or maybe low-code tools. For me, AI sits somewhere vaguely in that category (though with a much higher level of sophistication).

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by hardwaresofton »

ggerganov wrote: post #25
JacobiX wrote: post #24

Very interesting as usual from Fabrice Bellard, but I'm a little bit disappointed this time, because libnc is a closed source DLL. Nevertheless it will be interesting to compare it to the amazing work of Georgi Gerganov: GGML Tensor Library. Both are heavily optimized, supports AVX intrinsics and are plain C/C++ implementation without dependencies.

I expect LibNC will be better in every aspect: performance, accuracy, determinism. But hopefully with time we will close the gap.

refreshingly humble take -- thanks for your hard work. The work you've done and put out in the open is massive.

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by yeahsure22 »

DrewADesign wrote: post #49
yeahsure22 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I’m sure that one guy will be able to change the course of history to suit his job situation. It’s going to happen so you had better go with the flow. Become water.

In the US, people's jobs effectively justify their existence. Smugly saying mid or late career professionals can "become water" when their entire career category faces collapse is the most patronizing thing I've heard in a long time. That's a non-recoverable blow to many smart, capable people. There's a big difference between demanding we stop the wheels of progress to protect a few people and saying we owe the masse…

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Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by remram »

networked wrote: post #42

> All is included in a single binary. Very few external dependencies (Python is not needed) so installation is easy on most Linux distributions. I have to disagree. The combination of being closed-source and dynamically linked makes a program a hassle to run on Linux. Even if it isn't at the moment of release, it soon becomes one. While ts_server is better than most, it already requires an old version of libjpeg-turb…

The ABI doesn't seem to be the problem, and Win32 does not include a libjpeg, so your Win32 approach would only work if it also bundles or statically links libjpeg.

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by UncleEntity »

DrewADesign wrote: post #49
yeahsure22 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I’m sure that one guy will be able to change the course of history to suit his job situation. It’s going to happen so you had better go with the flow. Become water.

In the US, people's jobs effectively justify their existence. Smugly saying mid or late career professionals can "become water" when their entire career category faces collapse is the most patronizing thing I've heard in a long time. That's a non-recoverable blow to many smart, capable people. There's a big difference between demanding we stop the wheels of progress to protect a few people and saying we owe the masse…

Not all that long ago people on this very site were super enthusiastic about the prospect that my job would very likely be taken over by the robots.

Because, you see, the robots didn’t need to be perfect but merely fractionally safer than the humans.

Now all I see is No True Scotsman arguments on why the current crop of AI won’t take away their jobs and, ironically, my job is pretty safe due to Tesla’s tomfoolery causing blowback from the feds.

So robots eating the world is good or what?

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by UncleEntity »

danwee wrote: post #14
JoachimS wrote: post #12

The Fabrice Bellard web page must be one of the most underselling ones on the entire web. So many amazing projects. Not a word that really emphasize the importance, coolness. Just a simple list with short factual descriptions.

These kind of people are like that. Does Linus Torvalds have a web page? No. He knows he doesn't need one. They are gods in the IT industry, and they know it.

He has a blog because I recall reading about him reverse engineering a file format for his wife’s embroidery machine.

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by hardwaresofton »

yeahsure22 wrote: post #54
DrewADesign wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, people's jobs effectively justify their existence. Smugly saying mid or late career professionals can "become water" when their entire career category faces collapse is the most patronizing thing I've heard in a long time. That's a non-recoverable blow to many smart, capable people. There's a big difference between demanding we stop the wheels of progress to protect a few people and saying we owe the masse…

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It's so funny, because that phrase when I hear it suggests going with the ML/AI flow.

"becoming water" is a double-edged sword -- if there's a storm out or really hot, it's a bad time to be water. You kind of want to be rock then.

The point is that going with the flow feels like it could easily be interpreted either way (as in -- go all in on AI/ML)

Re: TextSynth Server

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Post by flangola7 »

shakow wrote: post #35
speedgoose wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a long story IMHO. You can find hate pretty far back in history, mostly because of the many wars involving France. Recently I would mention the lack of appreciation towards the allies after the WW2, or France not invading Irak with others because of the (fake) mass destruction weapons. In addition to that, Frenchmen are quite patriotic and proud so it’s a fun target. It’s also an allied country and a strong one…

> the lack of appreciation towards the allies after the WW2 Where did you get this impression? The US were basically seen as the it country for decades. > for obvious reasons. It's not really obvious for me. Why is “he is a great programmer despite being French” seen as OK, whereas e.g. “he is a great programmer despite being Black” would clutch (and rightly so) many pearls?

The French largely are not a marginalized people with little power who are target by people with lots of power.
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