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Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by akavi »

somedude895 wrote: post #45
Laaas wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with the example? Although I am not a Spanish speaker, naively it looks fine. The pronunciations written in English are very impressive and do indeed sound somewhat like the corresponding Spanish words (albeit of course incorrect! But most people don't know IPA).

No, it's absolutely terrible on every single one. For some reason it's telling you how to pronouce them with an English accent, or rather how an English-speaking person would pronounce it if they didn't speak Spanish at all. > Adiós: "Adiós, my toes" - rhymes with "toes" In this example "toss" would be much closer than "toes". But yeah, this is awful. I don't know how this happened.

I disagree that Spanish's /o̞/ is closer to General American's /ɔ/ than to its /ou/.

But that's fundamentally a question of perception that people are going to disagree about

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by cool_dude85 »

bayesian_horse wrote: post #39
cool_dude85 wrote: post #25

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>the explain your answer is something I'm really interested in to help me understand the sentences I'm constructing They used to have an army of native-speaking volunteers to do this for free in the comments. I guess this is why they turned those off.

Usually that decision is driven by the cost of moderating/deleting abusive content quickly enough in order to not get banned from use in schools...

Maybe I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised if forum moderation was a volunteer activity. Even core functionality like developing the lessons, for less popular languages, was done by the Duo community and given very little support from paid staff.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by jmholla »

crazygringo wrote: post #30
beezlewax wrote: post #29

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Pretty much what it sounds like

No, the "a" vowels are totally different. "Grassy" and "ass" have the vowel in "bat". "Gracias" has the vowel in "bot".

I think the a in "bra" works better in your comparison since it has an a.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by andy_ppp »

codetrotter wrote: post #17
wahnfrieden wrote: post #14

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Irresponsible to give this to learners

My girlfriend is Spanish. I don’t think her family would be impressed if I were to pronounce “gracias” as “grassy ass” xD

I swear some people seem to say “grathios” in Spain but it seems to vary so much…

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by canadianfella »

somedude895 wrote: post #45
Laaas wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with the example? Although I am not a Spanish speaker, naively it looks fine. The pronunciations written in English are very impressive and do indeed sound somewhat like the corresponding Spanish words (albeit of course incorrect! But most people don't know IPA).

No, it's absolutely terrible on every single one. For some reason it's telling you how to pronouce them with an English accent, or rather how an English-speaking person would pronounce it if they didn't speak Spanish at all. > Adiós: "Adiós, my toes" - rhymes with "toes" In this example "toss" would be much closer than "toes". But yeah, this is awful. I don't know how this happened.

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Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by danpalmer »

Metacelsus wrote: post #55

Why only iOS?

The dev time on this must be very fast, given that it probably makes sense to focus on one platform first.

Also review times with Apple are consistently 24-48 hours, but Google Play review times are (sadly) not from what I’ve heard from developers. If the whole timescale is 2-4 weeks, that may be a deal breaker.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by ArchOversight »

cool_dude85 wrote: post #25
lsllc wrote: post #4

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To be fair, Super Duolingo is pretty good. Dropping the Ads alone is totally worth the subscription if you're a daily user (it's the only app I use daily aside from Messages, Email etc). I'm very curious about Max though ... the explain your answer is something I'm really interested in to help me understand the sentences I'm constructing (which is where I make most of my blunders!).

>the explain your answer is something I'm really interested in to help me understand the sentences I'm constructing They used to have an army of native-speaking volunteers to do this for free in the comments. I guess this is why they turned those off.

They still have the forum style "help me out", but there are some where the responses are really a huge miss where I could see this AI helping out more by giving better answers.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by djcannabiz »

gdprrrr wrote: post #41
maCDzP wrote: post #9

They should combine it with Whisper so I can talk to some AI in a random language and just talk about nonsense. Also awesome training data since my pronunciation would suck? I am a bit too embarrassed to talk in a new language but staying with an AI would be ok.

Try https://www.quazel.com/

Thanks for the recommendation, this looks really cool!
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